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Old 23rd Apr 2021, 07:17
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Passenger facility fee to be scrapped

Wonder how they are going to replace the shortfall.

Teesside Airport's 'hated' passenger facility fee to be scrapped within WEEKS | The Northern Echo


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...Perhaps from the good burghers of the area...only fair then.
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The sooner they get the South side development finished the better, progress seems to have stopped. The likes of Amazon then might consider bringing their freight traffic to MME for onward transportation to the North East warehouses.
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Oldart, all they have done is build a bigger fence, flatten a few bushes and dropped a portacabin. The site seems to be back to the drawing board, lets hope they come up with an aviation project.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS

With the headline saying within weeks, I thought it may be done by the 6 May but apparently the cut off date is 1 June, so presumably the shortfall will be made up from the money they will be making from the Ryanair passengers.

...Perhaps from the good burghers of the area...only fair then.
The airport isn't funded by local council tax, but by the investment funds allocated to the combined authority by central government. Doubt whether the departure tax has had much impact on inward investment decisions.

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The fact that the departure tax probably in a good year only brought in less than £500k and realistically probably only brought in £350k it's not a huge money maker! Add to that that last year it probably only brought in £100k it can be absorbed if all that is promised goes ahead.
Ryanair probably demanded it gone anyway!
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Highly unusual for RYR to support an airport,in RYR normal construct it has to work the other way round.
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Don't think there is any suggestion of that!!

But Ryanair passengers will be spending on car parking and in the bar, cafe, shop etc. The airport has re-furbished and dedicated a gate and check-in area for RYR flights
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Ryanair will be operating 5 flights per week from Teesside over the summer. Assuming pax turn up at the airport max 2 hours before departure, and they have to be ready for boarding 30 mins before departure, that leaves no more than about 1 hour dwell time in the airport.

The result is long quiet periods during the day with a 1 hour sudden surge in demand for food / drink. Making coffee or even tea is quite time consuming and labour intensive. Most people are not willing to work a 2 hour shift at near minimum wage. This is not a great business model for a cafe - they prefer to try to spread the demand over the day instead of all the customers coming when staff are potentially stretched to capacity

I wouldn't get too excited about the additional revenue to the airport from food/drink sold to Ryanair pax. Focus should be on car parking instead
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Hence the other flights at the airport, including Balkan Holidays, Logan, Eastern and KLM.
Also I'm guessing there are more Ryanair flights to come!

It all adds up.
David stop moaning and start supporting. Rome wasnt built in a day.
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If you look at many regional airports there are large lulls in activity between the arrival and departures of based units. MME isn't even at that stage yet, and is still very much in the building stage of it's redevelopment and will just have to bite the bullet until a critical mass of passengers develops for all these operations to become profitable.
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..."until a critical mass of passengers develops for all these operations to become profitable"....errrr the departure tax is being removed v shortly & of course with more than enough time for The Mayor to receive the favourable publicity in the forthcoming Mayoral but with a likely cash income deficit then...

"We`re able to bin the passenger tax now because Ryanair has given our airport & our region...&c...&c...with the new Corfu flight"...thus has spake the Mayor...He certainly appears to be hitching his wagon to this particular flight & airline...Note...Ryanair modus= they bite (eventually)

"Rome wasn`t built in a day"...No Rome was founded in 753BC & still stands today...How long do we give The Mayor & a likely house of cards then?

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It's a ten year (funded) plan. It'd be a major surprise if Houchen isn't re-elected and he will then have another 4 year term
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When the mayor did his Facebook announcement for the Corfu flight he said "..it just goes to show the airport is on the up with more good news coming later this week and next week and the week after..."

I read that as 3 more things, one is the removal of the £6 PFF, can we speculate on what else might be coming up? Loganair/BA codeshare on LHR (would be a big win), more from Ryanair (winter routes, based aircraft for 2022), more from TUI, Wizz/Easyjet, BA double daily to JFK (I am not being serious)...
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"..it just goes to show the airport is on the up with more good news coming later this week and next week and the week after..."

Takes us neatly up to the first week in May - maybe there will then be no more announcements for three years and nine months....

The Loganair/BA codeshare makes sense, anybody know why it has taken this long? It really is just a 'trophy' route at the moment with out any interlining. Gawd knows after that...
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Facebook announcement...
= more constituents considering their vote later this week and next week and the week after...
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"It`s a ten year (funded) plan" = To be clear paid for by the UK taxpayer ultimately then.
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Yes - comes out of an investment fund supplied from central government. This is why Teesside have been able to fund the recent re-furbishments, etc, etc in a period when most commercial organisations are preserving cash.
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Part of Peel's plan to make charter flying viable again was to bring all of this stuff in-house so costs were controlled and 100% of profit went to the airport; and the Xpress Cafe and Premium Lounge that were created to this end as part of the 2017 terminal overhaul (which the Mayor likes to ignore so he can claim his redevelopment is the first in 10-20 years), worked very well indeed for the airport.
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Does anyone know where Carol is? She was a Dispatcher/Runner for Servisair Teeside in the ‘80’s and was great to meet on turnarounds, always smiling. She worked often with a girl who had dark hair, whose name escapes me.
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