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Old 28th Nov 2022, 22:49
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Looked about 250kgs in the picture…good speculative outlay ? …as it probably would have come anyway without the £2.5 million spent.

Worked though, as looks like the next one is into Newcastle in an hour or so 🤪
I'm sure those four photographs are pre-opening publicity photographs which have been used previously ?
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Old 28th Nov 2022, 22:50
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Best one was when they ran out of engines requiring an IL 76 to fill the gap. And yes, that is the old photo with the two Willis guys.
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 12:09
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RWY 23 ILS U/S. EXPECT NDB APPROACH fantastic in foggy weather and not expected to be fixed until 12/31/2022 2200
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 18:18
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https://www.aviationbusinessnews.com...sside-airport/
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Old 13th Dec 2022, 18:31
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So that's two companies so far that have 'handled' the first cargo flight. Curious.
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Old 14th Dec 2022, 07:19
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When the second 727 turns up parking is going to be interesting.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 14:13
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Wonder what the EXPENSES were?

Report into more losses at Teesside. The public have added a few comments on the page.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...demic-25760770
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 15:29
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Large numbers of new staff might account for some of it.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 15:36
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This looks odd - haven't the accounts already been released and discussed? This is probably a report of some internal TVCA finance committee or such like.

Wonder what the EXPENSES were?
Grow up Beefer, it's explained in the article - it's the re-furb of the terminal etc, not the "Duck house in the moat" type expenses you're implying.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 19:07
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Facts -Accounts - Expenses, filed 14th Dec 2022

Originally Posted by SWBKCB
This looks odd - haven't the accounts already been released and discussed? This is probably a report of some internal TVCA finance committee or such like.



Grow up Beefer, it's explained in the article - it's the re-furb of the terminal etc, not the "Duck house in the moat" type expenses you're implying.
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A few facts from the latest Teesside Airport Ltd accounts dated 14th Dec 2022 for the previous year.

The latest file downloads into a pdf presentation with a lot of financial information provided by the company/auditors.
https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

Profit and loss account: -£79m. page 13
Liabilities: -£52m

Expenses are shown on page 15 of the filing history file = -£2.3 million for the year. Not refurbishing the building SWB. More to do with exiting contracts.
Obligations for the rail terminal.

Page 15: Summary of non disclosure exemptions:
No cashflow presented by the company?
No disclosure of remuneration of key management personel.

Airport Directors payments: £212,000. I think they are the individuals named in the documents, (councillors?).

Assets under construction £1m

Depreciation expense -£602,114.

Employees 115, up from 89 in 2021. Staff costs: £4.1m.
Admin staff: 45 (2021 staff 27). Operational staff: 75.

Companies valuation of the asset: £30m. Up from £20m the previous year.

A lot of figures, and losses. Airport Pension plan is now paid by the councils.

It will be interesting to see how long the Mayors TVA will have the funds to continue to prop the airport up.

A mention of the 50/50 split. £1m investment - Not sure if thats the south side company, or the North side?
Needs an accountants eye to work out the rest of the forecasts, and estimates shown. Some bedtime reading SWB
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 22:19
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You can almost hear the pigs squealing with their snouts in the trough as the mayor tips in more swill.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 23:28
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
This looks odd - haven't the accounts already been released and discussed? This is probably a report of some internal TVCA finance committee or such like.
This is the public release of the full year end accounts. There was a preliminary accounts findings announcement during the summer.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 07:38
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Originally Posted by Harold77
This is the public release of the full year end accounts. There was a preliminary accounts findings announcement during the summer.
and the last full accounts published at the end of March - that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!

Seems that they have high hopes for Freeport status. The 50/50 split is for the Southside business park

No accountant but a couple of other things caught my eye:
  • Looks like TIA paid for the Draken hangar;
  • All borrowing is from TVCA (i.e. you and me), rather than on the commercial markets;
  • from memory, the councillor directors don't get paid - two of the current independent directors are also associated with firms who have been paid for consultancy
  • apparently the freight centre is in a 'purpose-built' hangar
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 08:45
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What's the Govt / taxpayer subsidy per passenger ?
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 15:25
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
apparently the freight centre is in a 'purpose-built' hangar
Yes it was a purpose built aircraft hangar about 1939.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 18:32
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The operating loss was a mere £338 per departing passenger.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 19:51
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It's who you know.

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The operating loss was a mere £338 per departing passenger.
That's a lot of money to lose per passenger!

But its not what you know, its WHO you know to be given a job at the airport £4.1m - airport salaries inthe accounts

The management won't disclose the cashflow, or the key management salaries! Nobody is monitoring the Tax payers money.

I expect the whole airport site will be handed over in a couple of years to a couple of chaps who are good friends of you know who, given the the 3 muskateers dealings elsewhere in the area.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 21:33
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Is the airport not in the process of being handed to Willis? They are taking over handling and has the purpose built freight facility not been given to them?
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 10:13
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Originally Posted by HH6702
MME looses based 145 NCL gains it

Aberdeen 2 x daily
Oslo via Aberdeen 6 x weekly

information from seanM1997 on twitter
This is on the NCL thread. Loss of base or loss of routes? At the moment, early morning departures still there from Teesside on the Loganair website so this news isn’t yet reflected in the booking engine.
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 10:17
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In fact my question is answered.

Aberdeen becomes 7 x weekly with Belfast and Dublin gone.

Major loss! Be interested in the mayor’s narrative on this one.

(Reference SeanM1997).
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