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Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:40
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
The link provided by DJ6 shows decreases across a whole range of European destinations, so clearly AMS issues are having an impact. However, the Teesside reductions are the second biggest on the list and I would imagine that KLM know where they make their money.
I think this is a KLM and an Amsterdam
issue. Both are suffering and the way you attack it is by reducing schedules where there is least impact- that could imply our loads are not as impressive as other airports, or it could mean that with 3 other KLM options within 90 minutes of here, it’s easier to reaccommodate MME customers.

Whatever the cause or the logic though, all of this is damaging confidence and negatively affecting loads.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 18:56
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P330 good observation.

Whatever the reasons..it does little to support the mayors “worldwide” connectivity for business in the Tees Valley.

My interest shifts to Loganair.Are the loads to Dublin and Belfast sustainable and making a profit? Subsidies will be coming to an end , I would suspect within the original contract timeframe..I know it comes down to yields,but still not earth shattering figures.

Oh well. Alicante it is!
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 20:23
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Earlier post showed KLM cutting frequency during September and October.. down to almost one per day.

The rest of this month(August) not mentioned, but appears similar reductions..just one per day?

Local airports don’t seem to be affected anywhere near as much?

Views from the panel please ?
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 22:45
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An alternative view of Teesside airport skimming the surface.
Pigs Might Fly. An Update for Visitors to Teesside Airport. Part 2 (teesvalleymonitor.com)
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 07:25
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Ouch ! again.

To be fair nothing in there that is news to us all..however it brings it all together in one read.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 07:40
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The bit about ATC looks unfair - sure that would have been NOTAM's rather than it 'just happened' as the article implies - and plenty of other places have had similar issues (Gatwick yesterday!)

The implication that Stobart were responsible for the expansion and it's all gone pearshaped since they left is also an interpretation I've not come across before...

I've still not heard a reasonable explanation of how Stobart got involved, what they did, and why they left

And yes, the rest of it is familar
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 09:27
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Rumours and news.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 10:06
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Article just about sums it up, huge amounts of money spent on their commercial pax offering for 5-6 departures a day!
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 11:50
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See Loganair switching based aircraft to an Emb135 from the 145.Not sure if permanent or not..but a decrease in capacity non the less.

Yes the ATC bit in the article is unfair as they are just following the rules as laid down.nothing to do with the airport other than maybe not enough staff?

Newcastle also suffering from this.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 11:56
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Look; there maybe some shady politics here but the result is we have a far better position today than 3-4 years ago.

I will make my judgement in a years time. If in one year we have had no new routes announced with current offerings reduced, alongside no major new non-PAX activity, then I won’t be happy.

But regardless of how we got here, we have a better facility with more routes than in the past with a clear opportunity for more. Houchen said recently new announcements are coming and the sad news at DSA does present an increase in opportunities here.

All of the above ignores the value for money piece and just focusses on outcomes.
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 12:05
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Totally agree, let’s give it a year to see where we stand post covid. Far to many people on here are happy to run our airport down!
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Old 24th Aug 2022, 18:05
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I might have spied my first parking permit today but no sign of the parking warden.
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Old 27th Aug 2022, 12:19
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Passenger figures for July look pretty good…

Total Pax - 21632

Loganair routes
Aberdeen - 2101 (average 25)
Belfast - 780 (average 19.5)
Dublin - 414 (average 20)
Newquay - 304 (average 30)

Ryanair routes
Alicante - 3161 (average 176)
Corfu - 1633 (average 163)
Faro - 3019 (average 168)
Palma - 4390 (average 169) - I am told TUI is completely sold out all summer so FR loads likely around 150-155

Others
Amsterdam - 3621
Bourgas - 1130 - seems to be performing poorly from lots of airports this summer!? Averages about 63 per flight!
Jersey - 648

Various other one off sports and military charters make up the rest.
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Old 27th Aug 2022, 12:50
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Loads to Bulgaria are down from every airport, could be due to its proximity to Ukrainian? Other routes look quite good 👍🏻
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Old 27th Aug 2022, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Gsm1
Loads to Bulgaria are down from every airport, could be due to its proximity to Ukrainian? Other routes look quite good 👍🏻
it’s not really that close, I think it’s more down to Bulgaria falling out of fashion as a destination. Similar to how the Costa Brava did (which is now having a renaissance.
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Old 29th Aug 2022, 06:04
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Thought it opened at the end of last year. Can anybody confirm that it is also run by Willis?

The airport has officially opened its doors to its new £2.5m cargo handling facility. This new investment comes as Teesside Airport turns its focus to its land and property assets, including its £200m Southside Business Park development, to diversify its revenue streams. The 21,000sq ft hangar provides security screening technology, as well as handling, freight-forwarding, customs clearage and storage. The facility can also be used for specialised charter flights for both air and road freight.

As part of the development, the airport now has secured Regulated Agent status from the Civil Aviation Authority, allowing it to handle secure cargo at its site. The facility has appointed a Head of Cargo with 25 years of airport experience alongside security staff and when fully up and running, it is expected to create up to 30 jobs.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...ility-24874030
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Old 29th Aug 2022, 06:40
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Photo shows Willis staff by the look of the logos.
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Old 29th Aug 2022, 06:56
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Another release by the Northern Echo. Land close the the runway not fit for development. Solar farm reminds me of the objects they used against the remote control 720 in the fire test years ago.
Solar farm at Teesside Airport would help tackle cost of living crisis | The Northern Echo
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Old 29th Aug 2022, 08:45
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More on the press photo's and the cargo building.

https://www.teesvalleymonitor.com/th...esside-airport

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Old 29th Aug 2022, 15:22
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Newquay not returning for S23, seems Loganair may have fallen out with Newquay management over incentives favouring Flybe. Another route that should be perfectly viable lost.

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