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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 11:38
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Clearly this will keep the spotting community happy
- is such a thing possible?

Presumably they've crunched the numbers. Move staff around to serve the spectators while demand for the airside bars is low between flights? Might make sense while the terminal is running under capacity but the trick is doing it when the terminal gets busy - Southend is the most recent example of "oh what a quick and easy airport to use" quickly changing to "endless queues, no shops, the bars/cafes are rammed"
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 15:33
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Unfortunately, spotters tend not to spend much. They will stay for hours and eat home-made sandwiches. That's the reason the spectator's terminal at Luton closed - it just didn't pay.
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It will do well with the general public who always appreciate a view at the airport, but you'll probably find the die-hard enthusiasts continue to favour the short-stay car park fence-line or the various south-side locations.
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Lots of airports in Germany, Switzerland and Poland make it work. MAN seems to do well with the viewing park. So it must be possible to do it.
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They should ask Willis for some aircraft bits to fit the place out.

The days of spotters with sandwiches are long gone, just going up not knowing what you are going to see is a thing of the distant past. Most know exactly what is due and when.

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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 22:04
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True spotters probably wouldn’t be in a dedicated viewing area unless it happened to be alongside a runway or something. If done right viewing areas can be a destination for a day out, like Stansted in the old days at the old terminal. Activity at a ‘busy’ Teesside probably wouldn’t be far off those levels.

In Europe at smaller airports there are also a few examples of bars/restaurants that are worthy of a visit in their own right.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 07:24
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Just 20 minutes up the road is the delightful GA airfield of Fishburn - it also has a lovely cafe/restaurant that is popular amongst locals (and not so local people).

Views are available of the activity at the airfield.

The restaurant is open for most of the day, and throughout the week, producing good quality food - why can’t Teesside Airport main terminal offer similar?

An opportunity to encourage people to the airport who wouldn’t normally come - perhaps someone is thinking ‘outside of the box’ here?

Best of luck to them.

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It’s a great idea..you need to get the youth of today actually interested in something other than mobile phones!

I wonder what level of security will be needed? Can the airport afford a dedicated security person/desk all day?
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 09:10
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Do other airports have security in viewing areas, I have never seen any? I would imagine it will be the same as the current viewing place, none.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 09:45
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The one at Warsaw has no security and is behind glass. The ones at Zurich and Dusseldorf have airport style security and I think charge a fee (not much). A simple way to cover the costs.
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Amsterdam has no security (landside) and is outside (it's on the roof where the old KLM Fokker 50 is located). However this and WAW/ZRH/DUS are all far far bigger airports than Teesside is aiming to be.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 14:47
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or looking at the images in the article it could just be a landside bar with an outdoor smoking area. Wonder what the return on investment period is?
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 17:13
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The airport can't post anything on social media without somebody mentioning the Loganair ABZ price hikes...
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 20:09
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Mayor: "touch wood, we are about to announce a new carrier coming in"

Interview with Ben Houchen contains a lot of background on the rationale for the airport acquisition (especially the political side of things). This quote is at 37:50

In the world of airport/airline doublespeak, I wonder if Eastern would be classed as a new carrier? I guess if they are still looking at 300k pax next year then it might be a bigger one...
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 22:22
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I don't think the Major is that dumb to bring Eastern in as a new carrier. A certain long time route hasn't got any cover at the moment it might be something to do with that or the neighbouring Islands.
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Old 8th Oct 2021, 10:46
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Really interested to see what the new carrier will be. Anyone have any guesses?

Hope it’s not competition on an existing route....

There does seem to be a lack of Wizz Air presence in the North East....
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Old 10th Oct 2021, 22:29
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KLM

Interesting change from KLM in December - Mon, Thu, Fri, Sun flights at 12.15 departure from Amsterdam and 12:55 departure from Teesside - hopefully will help connections - always thought it was a bit strange that KLM deem the late afternoon rotation to be the weakest from Teesside which is why they drop it in July and August, but then operate it when demand is even lower.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 05:44
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With the world opening, I am looking at booking a couple of scheduled trips with KLM. Have to say I have no confidence in the schedule at all and maybe forced to book from Newcastle which I desperately don’t want to do.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 07:49
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KLM will move you to NCL or LBA if the Teesside flight gets cancelled. I would do some screenshots of the ex-NCL/LBA prices just before you book though as there is normally a premium for flying from MME and you could argue for the fare difference back.
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Old 11th Oct 2021, 08:36
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So are KLM still only operating the 4 flights per week? Thought it was planned to be back to full schedule then?
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