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Indeed. Maybe the politicians could say if they felt that it was sustainable to have two operators going head to head on MME-ABZ in the medium term and if so, could they give examples of a similar situation (ie 2 operators both flying from the same tertiary airport to a secondary one) happening in the UK today.
Loganair have long coveted the MME-ABZ route, it has been a cash cow for Eastern for a long time and Loganair have now won the battle - for me it is as simple as that.
Loganair have long coveted the MME-ABZ route, it has been a cash cow for Eastern for a long time and Loganair have now won the battle - for me it is as simple as that.
I agree - they haven't a clue. If you look back to the original business case, it's arguable that Southampton is the more important route. There is a fair arguement to be had as to whether it would contribute more to the Tees Valley economy than Corfu or Antalya.
I can't comment on Southampton but I can see the Eastern business viewpoint on Aberdeen. Closing MME and transferring back to their original NCL vacant route seems entirely logical and makes commercials sense to me. Loganair originally drove them off NCL - ABZ and SOU.
Anyone know if the Heathrow has now reduced officially to two flights..or is it temporarily?
Also KLM seem to be almost just operating at moment..is it just here or elsewhere?
Hope Ryanair bringing in the revenue still!
Plenty going on in the terminal with great business for local firms.. Ben sticking to his promises..
Also KLM seem to be almost just operating at moment..is it just here or elsewhere?
Hope Ryanair bringing in the revenue still!
Plenty going on in the terminal with great business for local firms.. Ben sticking to his promises..
DTV movements listing cancellations on the Heathrow and Amsterdam routes due Covid?
Makes you wonder if the competition , to the detriment of TIA , is taking away passengers from each other ?
Makes you wonder if the competition , to the detriment of TIA , is taking away passengers from each other ?
From the airports press release:
Nice of the Mayor to remember that the public investment in MME isn't just about holidays and city breaks...
The airport also offers brilliant onward connectivity to the US and Loganair’s ticketing deal with United Airlines means that once international travel has further opened up, you can jet to the States from Teesside on one ticket, with the reassurance of through check-in and through luggage along with protected connections in the event of delays.
Tees Valley Mayor Ben Houchen said: “Not only is the city a fantastic place for a people from Teesside, Darlington and Hartlepool to take a great city break, increasing our ties with the city will give businesses and visitors the chance to discover that we’re a region on the up, with the potential to boost investment and jobs. We have plenty more exciting announcements to come as we look to make 2022 a huge summer for the airport, so watch this space!”
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Airport twitter feed is saying: "Additional destinations to be announced soon"
Loganair are shuffling around their summer 2022 timetable right now. Currently Heathrow is only twice daily (although currently the plane is timetabled to sit on the ground for 1h 40 mins at LHR) and no sign of Jersey or Bristol at the moment (I would be shocked if Jersey did not appear).
So there are two early afternoon gaps in the schedule right now. One might still be for Bristol (plane that goes to Aberdeen) but anyone care to speculate about other destinations?
Loganair are shuffling around their summer 2022 timetable right now. Currently Heathrow is only twice daily (although currently the plane is timetabled to sit on the ground for 1h 40 mins at LHR) and no sign of Jersey or Bristol at the moment (I would be shocked if Jersey did not appear).
So there are two early afternoon gaps in the schedule right now. One might still be for Bristol (plane that goes to Aberdeen) but anyone care to speculate about other destinations?
Bristol and Jersey don't appear in the press release. Looking at the LM route map, maybe Southampton?
Loganair has adapted its summer 2022 schedule to meet the demands of local passengers travelling out of Teesside, with flights to Dublin running every Tuesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday between 29 May and 25 October. It joins double daily weekday flights to Aberdeen plus six flights per week to Belfast, as well as flights to London Heathrow and Newquay.
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Loganair to resume international flights next year | Travel Weekly
Would appear to confirm JER going across the network due to poor customer demand
Would appear to confirm JER going across the network due to poor customer demand
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July CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 9,390 (compared to 7,297 last month, 1,429 passengers in July 2020 and 12,922 in July 2019)
Aberdeen was slightly down on June (reflecting 5 fewer flights) but loads are still strong and if you include those stopping off at Teesside they are nearly 26 pax per flight. Belfast is continuing it's good start and averaged 18.6 passengers per flight (up from 15.1 in June). Heathrow numbers were up slightly but the numbers are still poor so let's hope the codeshare boosts traffic in the coming months. Amsterdam had only 375 from (I think) 34 flights in July which makes 11 per segment and points to a lack of demand for international business travel.
As for the Ryanair routes, I think the average loads were: Palma 77, Alicante 76, Faro 18 and Corfu 38 (only 4 flights). Of course, the quarantine restrictions were only lifted for vaccinated people in mid July so August should see some further improvement.
Terminal passengers: 9,390 (compared to 7,297 last month, 1,429 passengers in July 2020 and 12,922 in July 2019)
- Aberdeen: 2,409 (up 59% on July 2019)
- Belfast City: 1,151 (best month yet)
- Bristol: 350
- Jersey: 775 (up 29% on July 2019)
- Heathrow: 1,009 (best month yet)
- Newquay: 666 (best month yet)
- Alicante: 1,061
- Amsterdam: 375
- Corfu: 152
- Faro: 315
- Palma: 1,082
Aberdeen was slightly down on June (reflecting 5 fewer flights) but loads are still strong and if you include those stopping off at Teesside they are nearly 26 pax per flight. Belfast is continuing it's good start and averaged 18.6 passengers per flight (up from 15.1 in June). Heathrow numbers were up slightly but the numbers are still poor so let's hope the codeshare boosts traffic in the coming months. Amsterdam had only 375 from (I think) 34 flights in July which makes 11 per segment and points to a lack of demand for international business travel.
As for the Ryanair routes, I think the average loads were: Palma 77, Alicante 76, Faro 18 and Corfu 38 (only 4 flights). Of course, the quarantine restrictions were only lifted for vaccinated people in mid July so August should see some further improvement.
Just nudged ahead of Lands End and Kirkwall.
Not sure if these are good figures are not?..it of course Covid affected,but approx 4.5k departing passengers through the terminal..rough average of 150 passengers per day,is not good.
No where near enough to keep all the new business outlets viable..and confirms the massive subsidies being paid to all at this present time.
The question has to be..what happens when the money runs out and questions start to be asked on the wisdom of the millions spent..
Not sure if these are good figures are not?..it of course Covid affected,but approx 4.5k departing passengers through the terminal..rough average of 150 passengers per day,is not good.
No where near enough to keep all the new business outlets viable..and confirms the massive subsidies being paid to all at this present time.
The question has to be..what happens when the money runs out and questions start to be asked on the wisdom of the millions spent..
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Over capacity combined with reduced demand in my opinion. Jersey has been operated by both Eastern and Loganair this summer and in July there were 28 flights on the route (counting both ways). In recent years the FlyBe charter would have had 10 flights in such a month and got a similar number of passengers. Would love to know the split of the passengers last month between Loganair (18 flights) and Eastern (10 flights).