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Good question!
I was flying to Santorini with Ryanair 3 weeks ago, so dropped my case off in Departures B, but the security area was closed and we were directed upstairs to Departures A security which was rammed with about 5/6 lanes open but through in 15-20 mins.
Only Ryanair use Departures B so in theory, this should be open for these passengers, can only assume there’s not enough security staff for both sets of departure areas…
I was flying to Santorini with Ryanair 3 weeks ago, so dropped my case off in Departures B, but the security area was closed and we were directed upstairs to Departures A security which was rammed with about 5/6 lanes open but through in 15-20 mins.
Only Ryanair use Departures B so in theory, this should be open for these passengers, can only assume there’s not enough security staff for both sets of departure areas…
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Yeah they seemed to only let Fast track Security users through the larger Departures A Security, and it did take us an hour to get through the Departures B one sadly. Only 2 lanes were open too. This btw was first thing in the morning on a Friday so usually one of the busier times.
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Yes staff were furloughed, the problem is whilst on furlough you were allowed to work another job, I guess the security in an airport security roll still isn’t that secure.
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To be fare I'm sure MAN are trying to recruit but with labour shortages in the UK generally it isn't that easy. I remember many security staff being Eastern Europeans so that particular source of labour will now be off limits. It's the same in hospitality and others service sectors.
To be fare I'm sure MAN are trying to recruit but with labour shortages in the UK generally it isn't that easy. I remember many security staff being Eastern Europeans so that particular source of labour will now be off limits. It's the same in hospitality and others service sectors.
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If you pay more you, you will get people, but unfortunately that will lead to increased cost which will have to be passed on, much as other Brexit bonuses, sorry for thread drift there.
If you pay more you, you will get people, but unfortunately that will lead to increased cost which will have to be passed on, much as other Brexit bonuses, sorry for thread drift there.
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Curious observation there Mr Mac..You seem to be saying that it was ok for an important aspect of airport work to be rather underpaid, as long as certain EU citizens were doing it and holidaymakers didn`t have to pay more ?
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There were also considerable redundancies in the same roles at other airports (I'm not 100% sure at man) and so cannot recruit for 6 months I believe? Unless they re-employ the same person.
As has been said I know of several security staff who went and got other jobs, often better paid, better shift patterns and less hassle at work. Why would they go back?
As has been said I know of several security staff who went and got other jobs, often better paid, better shift patterns and less hassle at work. Why would they go back?
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Since around May/June (I think) T3 arrivals have re-started with BA using stands 42/43 and passengers then collect their luggage from T3 domestic arrivals and exit via T3. I believe Loganair, Eastern and Blue Islands domestic/CTA arrivals did this during the lockdowns anyway.
I have seen some first wave Ryanair departures using T3 stands and passengers bussed from T1 gate 20 to the aircraft...which certainly works fine.
I had heard a few months ago ref an integration of T1/T3 as one terminal. For how long...who knows. The Ryanair and BA check in areas in T3 are sure better in my opinion than the current T1 cramped check in area!
If the T3 security area could be extended and staffed adequately, the overall departures experience wouldn't be as bad...as for the arrivals, the immigration area is way to small to handle multiple Ryanair arrivals! If there is a way of extending this area...it needs to be done for the long term.
Q: Is the current way of getting from the T1 departure lounge to T3 gates only via the corridor you go through now, so once passing the T1 lounges entrance, you proceed down the corridor...you then walk past what are now the reassigned Gates 35/36/37 & 38 on the southern front?
These gates have now been reassigned to be part of T1 assets.
So T1 has Departures B for Ryanair only, but at the moment the current staffing levels for security seems to suggest Security B is not always open and if it is, only 1/2 lanes are available. Departures A Security doesn't seem to fair much better despite many more lanes available, but on my recent 2/3 visits since August, there were about 4/5 lanes open and around 15 min wait.
I assume this particular issue ref the staffing levels is one of the reasons MAG might not re-open T3 for departures...
My question would be though...for arrivals, are passengers going to be bussed to the international arrivals and domestic/CTA arrivals in T1 from the many Ryanair flights that will arrive on T3 stands or will they be processed by immigration and collect their baggage from within T3...although I appreciate these type of questions can't be answered right now...I'm sure management are discussing the way forward for next summer and beyond, of course depending on how things pan out over the winter.
Interesting times ahead...
I have seen some first wave Ryanair departures using T3 stands and passengers bussed from T1 gate 20 to the aircraft...which certainly works fine.
I had heard a few months ago ref an integration of T1/T3 as one terminal. For how long...who knows. The Ryanair and BA check in areas in T3 are sure better in my opinion than the current T1 cramped check in area!
If the T3 security area could be extended and staffed adequately, the overall departures experience wouldn't be as bad...as for the arrivals, the immigration area is way to small to handle multiple Ryanair arrivals! If there is a way of extending this area...it needs to be done for the long term.
Q: Is the current way of getting from the T1 departure lounge to T3 gates only via the corridor you go through now, so once passing the T1 lounges entrance, you proceed down the corridor...you then walk past what are now the reassigned Gates 35/36/37 & 38 on the southern front?
These gates have now been reassigned to be part of T1 assets.
So T1 has Departures B for Ryanair only, but at the moment the current staffing levels for security seems to suggest Security B is not always open and if it is, only 1/2 lanes are available. Departures A Security doesn't seem to fair much better despite many more lanes available, but on my recent 2/3 visits since August, there were about 4/5 lanes open and around 15 min wait.
I assume this particular issue ref the staffing levels is one of the reasons MAG might not re-open T3 for departures...
My question would be though...for arrivals, are passengers going to be bussed to the international arrivals and domestic/CTA arrivals in T1 from the many Ryanair flights that will arrive on T3 stands or will they be processed by immigration and collect their baggage from within T3...although I appreciate these type of questions can't be answered right now...I'm sure management are discussing the way forward for next summer and beyond, of course depending on how things pan out over the winter.
Interesting times ahead...
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Fair enough if you were privy to inside information, and without getting into semantics as to what is a 'long time ago' in your original post.
It seems it has only been officially announced in the last day or two as per CabinCrewe's post. Flights had been showing departing MAN for LAX on Mon/Wed/Fri as I recall.
MAN's US offering is looking decidedly thin in terms of destinations for next summer with EI only operating to JFK & MCO but not BOS as well.
It seems it has only been officially announced in the last day or two as per CabinCrewe's post. Flights had been showing departing MAN for LAX on Mon/Wed/Fri as I recall.
MAN's US offering is looking decidedly thin in terms of destinations for next summer with EI only operating to JFK & MCO but not BOS as well.