Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

Manchester-3

Old 27th Aug 2021, 18:10
  #601 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Northumberland
Posts: 8,445
Received 68 Likes on 46 Posts
Thought the whole wall of the departure hall overlooking the apron was glass?
SWBKCB is online now  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 18:12
  #602 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BMA
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
the pictures I’ve seen seem to show a path through duty free coming out in a dark area with escalators surrounded by high street shops. Great if there is natural light and views of the airport.
BA318 is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 20:19
  #603 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Age: 63
Posts: 1,237
Received 109 Likes on 65 Posts
She said there are Windows to look out of but the gate she used was in old 2 so quite a few stairs. As I say I came out with Lufthansa yesterday and she had stayed with me in Munich a few weeks ago and commented on the difference in approach and style between them. She knows quite a bit about airports as one of her previous companies managed quite a few around the world and in the UK though they have now left.
Mr Mac is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 20:34
  #604 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: At the bar
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyone know what the Ethiopian 787 was doing at MAN last night? It originated from the Middle East so I’m assuming it was something to do with the Afghanistan evac…
ImPlaneCrazy is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 20:45
  #605 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: stockport
Posts: 485
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There were two Ethiopian aircraft,787 on schedule and A350 on DWC flights
chaps1954 is online now  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 21:37
  #606 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Danunder
Age: 49
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I didn't think it was too bad when I used it recently - certainly compared to T1.
I found a member of airline staff having a coffee and quizzed them on T2. Apparently some of the upstairs (premium?) food outlets won't open until the terminal gets busier. The old gates (which I also used) are only reached by stairs and rear of security path until a second phase of T2 refurb starts up.
I thought the views onto the airfield were really good and apparently - not that I used it - the premium lounge is really good.
Not comparable to MUC, but I'm not sure it's fair to expect it to be.
UnderASouthernSky is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2021, 22:59
  #607 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South East
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry but you can’t compare Manchester T2 with Munich.

Why?

Munich has 2 terminals. Terminal 1 at Munich is horrific. No windows landside. Long and narrow. Awful security queues. Crowded. No redeeming features. T1 at Munich is everyone but Lufthansa. T2 Munich is better. But not amazing.

But the short story is your experience of MUC is very dependant on If you’re using T1 or T2 there.

T2 at Manchester is far better than T1. But things aren’t back to normal yet. I am in no way defending Manchester airport, but you have to compare terminal to terminal. I’ve had some of my worst airport experiences at Munich when flying any non Lufthansa airline.
Downwind_Left is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 06:45
  #608 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Age: 63
Posts: 1,237
Received 109 Likes on 65 Posts
I / we only use T2 at MUC as LH is the carrier we use from there. I do think that you should be able to compare with Manchester as they are similar regional area. I just think T2 looks uninspiring as I had a look around while under construction. Could do better would be my judgment, and I do not mind T1 apart from a lot of poor infrastructure maintenance, and that long walk to the EK stand, but their lounge has some of the best view of an apron and runway.

Last edited by Mr Mac; 28th Aug 2021 at 21:31.
Mr Mac is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 09:08
  #609 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: U.K.
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Very different passenger numbers though in 2019:
MAN - 29 million
MUC - 47.9 million
PinOnTheRight is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 09:39
  #610 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: SYD
Posts: 520
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
With an optimal location in the heartland of Europe and a supportive based carrier in Lufthansa, MUC operates as a primary interline hub as well as serving its own region. They have lucrative destinations to offer from all directions of the compass rose. MAN has to rely on its core indigenous regional market stretching from the English Midlands and North Wales upto the Scottish border. That is a great hinterland catchment but MAN is simply not advantageously placed geographically to serve as anything other than a hub for certain niche markets. In normal times (non-covid), MAN can look to destinations such as IOM, BFS and ABZ to feed its onward flights. MAN does also have Eire to the West, though DUB offers a very similar slate of destinations to those available via MAN. But MUC is ideally placed geographically to serve as a true short-haul (and long-haul) crossroads for an entire continent. It is a whole different ballgame for them.

MAN will pick up some interline traffic on routes such as those to the USA and Caribbean, but these passengers are generally price-led and represent a very modest percentage of total boardings. And the heyday of this trade was when the Thomas Cook Transatlantic services were at their peak offering very generous fare deals. Who can say whether Virgin and Aer Lingus will make serious inroads into this market going forward?

So MAN will continue to enjoy a modest top-up from interline traffic (which is always welcome). But interline is absolutely fundamental to the business model at MUC. Geographical location provides that option for MUC; MAN at the Western periphery of Europe simply isn't central enough to pitch for that role. MAN cannot entertain pretentions of competing on the scale of a centrally-located European hub for interline volume - it can't happen. Of course, MAG is well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of its market reach, so they aren't trying to emulate MUC's primary hub model. However, every so often, outsiders pop up on a forum such as this to query why they don't.
OzzyOzBorn is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 09:47
  #611 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are the Escape/Aspire lounges in T2 open or are they still COVIDCLO?

Last edited by Ivan aromer; 28th Aug 2021 at 13:21.
Ivan aromer is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 14:11
  #612 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Danunder
Age: 49
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When I was there almost 3 weeks ago, Escape was open but Aspire was closed and looked to be unfinished with windows covered over.
UnderASouthernSky is offline  
Old 28th Aug 2021, 15:28
  #613 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Passed through T2 earlier this week.
A fair few flights, QR,CX,EY & several J2s & Tui’s. Standard Manch - only one security lane open & shared with fast track. A bit gloomy with many outlets closed. Escape lounge queue about 8 people, went to WC came back and the same people were still queuing to get in, so swerved that & settle for a Pret. Aspire lounge not due to open until Autumn.
The wooden benches are bloody uncomfortable.
Gate 203 is a heck of a trek but I guess it will improve (maybe) when, or if,the old T2 is is knocked through.
It was obviously better than T1 but I wasn’t blown away.
combined with the walk from The station along the turned off travelators, the trek through the terminal & to gate 203- reckon 10,000 steps in one go- saves on gym fees.
HKGBOY is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2021, 08:13
  #614 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks, what day and time did you travel?
Ivan aromer is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2021, 18:25
  #615 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thursday- midday- ish for 2pm departure
HKGBOY is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2021, 04:04
  #616 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beyond the Blue Horizon
Age: 63
Posts: 1,237
Received 109 Likes on 65 Posts
HKGBoy
Sounds like you came off the same gate as my wife.
She said they were routed back through security but separated from the area by line of chairs which when she initially walked in she was worried was yet more checking. As for T1 she said she still preferred it to new T2 though why do they not maintain anything there is beyond me.It is a poor advertisement, like welcome to broken Britain !
Mr Mac is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2021, 11:52
  #617 (permalink)  
DP.
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 163
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
T2 is now Escape or 1903. Escape is definitely open but I'm not sure whether they've opened 1903 yet. Possibly not given passenger numbers.
DP. is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2021, 11:55
  #618 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 719
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's open for VS departures at the moment. Opening for other airlines soon.

https://www.headforpoints.com/2021/0...l-2-extension/
SealinkBF is online now  
Old 5th Sep 2021, 16:04
  #619 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Posts: 264
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are the T1 Aspire/escape lounges open or still COVIDCLO?
Ivan aromer is offline  
Old 6th Sep 2021, 23:02
  #620 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Age: 51
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The auction for the sale of the old Thomas Cook hangar has been announced as cancelled and Thomas Cook UK tweeting "don't miss out on the big announcement, you're going to love it..." Anyone any ideas ?
eggc is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.