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Old 12th Jan 2021, 09:21
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I don't know about a "strategy" to push cargo to EMA and STN, which is I think what you are driving at.

Most of the additional tonnage through EMA appears to be on the DHL network, along with the other integrators that use EMA as a hub. When it comes to ad hoc additional movements, by the look of it they are going to non-MAG facilities such as DSA, LPL, BHX and the like. Because of the MAG business model at Manchester I really can't see them ever having wanted to attract DHL, UPS or Fedex/TNT to build a major hub their, such as exists at EMA and to a lesser extent, Stansted, as it could seriously impinge on capacity for the core business at Manchester - passenger traffic which will build back over time.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 09:45
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ATNotts how very true, there were no parking spaces at all the other day due several reasons so where Mayfield expects all those cargo 747s to park
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Old 13th Jan 2021, 23:04
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Those cargo figures for Manchester are dire, the limited mainline carriers left who carry underbelly capacity are QATAR, ETIHAD and EMIRATES, given they are losing corridor status means any cutbacks could result in zero uplift from anywhere.

Cargo connectivity will have totally evaporated.

It doesnt exactly chime with the platitudes on the MAG world Freight Terminal Page. I appreciate these are dated but even so.

Let's hope those carriers KEEP providing uplift even with no passengers or Manchester will have no freight throughput at all. That would be nothing short of scandalous for the airport which by it's own admission describes itself as a "global gateway".

Surely manufacturing, distribution , NHS, etc need some capacity in the middle of a pandemic ?


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Old 14th Jan 2021, 08:59
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Navpi

Please join the real world.

The growth in air cargo is primarily in the express parcel / integrator sector. They don't need flights into every airport, as they use hubs and their network of local depots served road trunkers. Aside of a few direct services from the like of MAN, BHX, LTN & LHR they tend to use primarily EMA and STN in England with the former serving Scotland and NI with domestic feeders.

Much of the traditional air freight through airports such as MAN is trucked to major hubs, LHR in UK, but also CDG, AMS, LUX and FRA. How the latter changes as a consequence of Brexit remains to be seen. Investing money in capacity to handle pure freight operations at MAN, BHX etc isn't going to be a business priority, rescuing PAX business most certainly will be.

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Old 14th Jan 2021, 09:14
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Surely manufacturing, distribution , NHS, etc need some capacity in the middle of a pandemic ?
Any evidence that there is any shortage of capacity anywhere?
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 11:14
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THG (The Hut Group) said there was. But they've gone very quiet lately.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 13:23
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Lots of rumours around that MAN is closing overnight again from 5pm tomorrow. Anyone seen anything official?
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 13:33
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Rumours of closing completely overnight, or inline with the below NOTAMs?

A0208/21 - SCHEDULING OF DEPARTING PASSENGER FLIGHTS WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED
BTN 0700-1700 DUE TERMINAL SECURITY OPERATING HOURS. SCHEDULED
INBOUND PAX PERMITTED BTN 0401-2200. THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT
AFFECT THE FOLLOWING:
1. ACFT IN STATE OF EMERGENCY
2. CARGO FLIGHTS
3. TECHNICAL LANDING
4. PRIVATE FLIGHTS
5. FERRY FLIGHTS.
EXCEPT ACFT IN EMERGENCY THE EXEMPTED FLIGHTS ARE TO SEEK
PRE-AUTHOURISATION (PPR) FROM THE AD OPERATOR TEL+44 (0) 161 489
3331. AIR OPERATORS MUST ENSURE GROUND HANDLING SUPPORT IS AVBL AT
ALL TIMES. 20 JAN 00:01 2021 UNTIL 15 FEB 23:59 2021. CREATED: 15 JAN 16:37
2021

A0207/21 - SCHEDULING OF DEPARTING PASSENGER FLIGHTS WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED BTN 0530-2300 DUE TERMINAL SECURITY OPERATING HOURS. SCHEDULED
INBOUND PAX H24. THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT AFFECT THE FOLLOWING:
1. ACFT IN STATE OF EMERGENCY
2. CARGO FLIGHTS
3. TECHNICAL LANDING
4. PRIVATE FLIGHTS
5. FERRY FLIGHTS.
EXCEPT ACFT IN EMERGENCY THE EXEMPTED FLIGHTS ARE TO SEEK
PRE-AUTHOURISATION (PPR) FROM THE AD OPERATOR TEL+44 (0) 161 489
3331. AIR OPERATORS MUST ENSURE GROUND HANDLING SUPPORT IS AVBL AT
ALL TIMES. FUEL AVBL 0400-2200. 15 JAN 16:31 2021 UNTIL 19 JAN 23:59 2021. CREATED:
15 JAN 16:34 2021
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 14:42
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Also Terminals 2 & 3 to be closed.
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 15:27
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Terminals 2 and 3 have been closed for some time now.
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Old 18th Jan 2021, 12:00
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The NOTAM has been updated:

Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5321N00217W005
B) FROM: 21/01/15 16:31C) TO: 21/01/19 23:59E) SCHEDULING OF DEPARTING PASSENGER FLIGHTS WILL ONLY BE PERMITTED
BTN 0530-2300 DUE TERMINAL SECURITY OPERATING HOURS
. SCHEDULED
INBOUND PAX H24. THIS RESTRICTION DOES NOT AFFECT THE FOLLOWING:
1. ACFT IN STATE OF EMERGENCY
2. CARGO FLIGHTS
3. TECHNICAL LANDING
4. PRIVATE FLIGHTS
5. FERRY FLIGHTS.
EXCEPT ACFT IN EMERGENCY THE EXEMPTED FLIGHTS ARE TO SEEK
PRE-AUTHOURISATION (PPR) FROM THE AD OPERATOR TEL+44 (0) 161 489
3331. AIR OPERATORS MUST ENSURE GROUND HANDLING SUPPORT IS AVBL AT
ALL TIMES. FUEL AVBL 0400-2200
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