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Old 12th Jan 2021, 14:53
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Was EDI-LCY a basket case? Thatís the one I took a few times and always seemed to do well for loads and as an outsider Iíd have said fares werenít too low either. Iíve seen it said a lot that BHD-LCY was a real winner.

The logic and strategy of the LCY network at the start seemed sound but clearly some routes didnít work at all - some a surprise, some less so - and some were trimmed.

But the whole London strategy quickly became muddled and the LCY network itself represented a u-turn. They had quit the London market having sold the LGW slots and were focusing on the regions. Fine. But then they ended up being pressured/paid(?) to keep the NQY-LGW route. And then largely reinstating the old LGW network into LCY. And then added a couple of routes into STN which didnít last long including a bizarrely timed double-daily to NCL where both flight were off-peak. And they had the Stobart franchise operation in their name at SEN, plus a short-lived DUB route that was operated directly outside the franchise. And Loganair into STN which was also a franchise.

So from a long-standing LGW operation they quickly went to dribs and drabs at multiple airports.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 17:34
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I thought the BHD and EDI to LCY went quite well, also since also with using Stobart Air's E190 on both routes
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 17:39
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AMS was the only route that made any money ex-LCY (and not very much at that)...not conjecture...fact.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 00:12
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11 ex Flybe Q400s going over to be tankers in Canada.
https://fireaviation.com/2021/01/14/...rs-with-q400s/
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 08:35
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That will be a really good use for them. The huge amount of extra power will be very comforting for firefighting pilots operating very low level.
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 10:15
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Rather appropriate you might say as BE had been fire fighting for several years!
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 12:52
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Oooh that's quite a burn.

Sorry ill see myself out 😁
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Old 15th Jan 2021, 12:58
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cant believe this thread still going. BE is gone and never to be seen again in any shape or form!
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 12:36
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I would'nt be that sure
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Old 17th Jan 2021, 17:29
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Exactly. That's what should happen - as the more you hear of the restart plans the more crazy it sounds - but it may well turn out not to be that way.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 13:06
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Interesting


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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 13:47
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G-CLXC DHC-8-400 has been registered to THYME OPCO
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 14:10
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…... and the nature of business as stated by Thyme Opco in its Companies House registration is Scheduled Passenger Air Transport.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 14:54
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......and this particular airframe indeed never operated by the old Flybe.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 15:11
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One of the Directors of Thyme Opco is also a Director of Cyrus Capital, owners of the defunct Flybe so I would conjecture that a rebirth is a step closer. The other Director has been an adviser and spokesman for Cyrus on Flybe matters.

Dash 8 G-CLXC is ex OE-LGA of Austrian Airlines.

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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 15:42
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Avoids any possible unpleasantness with creditors if it gets into operation?.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 16:26
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Might be best to start a new thread for the "rebirth"? It's unlikely to be called flybe after all and this feels a tad like dancing on the grave of an old friend.

If someone else wants to fly a 20 year old Q400 on flybe's old routes then fair play but perhaps let's leave the old Jersey European company to rest in peace. No one looks at an Eastern B767 today and says "Oh I remember when they flew TriStars out of Miami
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 16:50
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Then why buy the Flybe brand and website?
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 17:17
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So who owns all the flight & revenue data?...perhaps the main reason for the asset purchase.
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 03:06
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Because they're clowns with money to burn? The brand was beyond redemption years ago, in the public's mind, flybe is a now bankrupt airline that flew old propellor planes and was frequently unreliable. They spent money on buying THAT? This whole idea is a crackpot delusion that would be a very bad idea even in a good year.

Aviation is legendary for parting otherwise sensible investors from their money, it screws with good judgement as the part of your brain that deals with religion, faith, loyalty, belief, purpose and even rising from the dead gets involved.

They don't deserve a second chance, certainly not one where their original creditors remain overwhelmingly unpaid. By all means start something new, but I have a problem with resurrecting failed airlines from the dead.

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