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Old 24th Jan 2021, 21:53
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I thought so too but apparently these Cyrus people have a legal case that the slots can be possessed and sold. I'm sure that they would say that though! Probably worth chucking a few hundred grand at legal fees to give it a try, if you put yourself in their position. It was described to me as pretty desperate but when the possible jackpot outweighs the losses to such an extent then you'd stay at the gambling table for a bit longer to see if your luck improves, I suppose.
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Old 24th Jan 2021, 23:26
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G-CLMT looks like Dash No2..... expect more.

Flybe 2 hasn’t paid for anybody revaluation, the individuals did or with help from the job centre. Flybe 1 may have paid for the retained staff. More staff are being added to get this up and running.
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 01:26
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​​​​Sorry what? You say the Job Centre is doing what now?
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 03:29
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Job centres have a pot of cash they can use to help people back into work by doing courses etc. They have funded some people’s Dash revaluations.
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 07:54
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the same damaged brand as before.
Who says that is the case?

Take a look at an existing UK operator Eastern Airways. Its not obvious from their branding that the AOC is actually in the name of my old air-taxi job Air Kilroe Ltd. Thus even if former FlyBe assests are used in some way there will be a new name to splash with publicity.

In fact how about a guessing game to take up a few minutes of lockdown? Any ideas..........
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 08:47
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2B or not 2B
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 09:55
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I'm not sure that there's any evidence to suggest this. OE-LGC was re-registered to G-CLMT in May of last year when ownership moved from Austrian to EIC Aircraft Leasing.
Looks like the aircraft has been in storage since.

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Old 25th Jan 2021, 10:53
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Clarification:
G-CLMT is ex OE-LGC. Different frame from G-CLXC which is ex OE-LGA.
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 11:45
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G-CLMT Inside Exter hangar

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Old 25th Jan 2021, 12:08
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What fleet size do we think for any reincarnation?
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 12:20
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i guess 5 - 8 aircraft to begin with .......
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 14:42
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Originally Posted by Jamie2009
Job centres have a pot of cash they can use to help people back into work by doing courses etc. They have funded some people’s Dash revaluations.
How much money are we talking? And by revaluations I guess you mean sim hours to remain current?

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Who says that is the case?
Take a look at an existing UK operator Eastern Airways. Its not obvious from their branding that the AOC is actually in the name of my old air-taxi job Air Kilroe Ltd. Thus even if former FlyBe assests are used in some way there will be a new name to splash with publicity.
In fact how about a guessing game to take up a few minutes of lockdown? Any ideas..........
OKAY this where I can see something possible, a new airline on some of the old flybe network relaunched from the ashes. But to be super clear :
1) Don't call it flybe - the branding is tainted with actual bankruptcy (bad) and unreliability (much worse) . Yes it is, let's not deny it. Call it something else.
2) One of the problems with the now bankrupt flybe was operating old Q400s in a market that was better suited capacity wise to an ATR or a jet for speed. Flying even older Q400s doesn't address this. They're looking to make the same mistake again. Actually in that case they should call it flybe
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 14:43
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That's not G-CLXC.... it's OE-LGC (G-CLMT) being broken for spares (photo courtesy of shamu28, Flickr...)
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Old 25th Jan 2021, 17:07
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I beg to differ on point 2. The Q400 was neither expensive or unreliable. The problems were over priced leases through other Walker Trust companies, on both Dashes and particularly the Emb175s. the fact they laid off so many line engineers and made preventative maintenance a third party cost in the process and any aircraft if not looked after will become unreliable. When they are the Q400 flies 10 sectors a day so will cycle quickly and will always appear to break more often compared to aircraft that fly 4 sectors.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 16:23
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New owners granted a UK AOC - will be interesting to see the name on the cert.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 20:16
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how do you know?
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 21:21
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I think that might be fake news (are we still allowed to use that expression in a post-Trump era?) but do not know for sure. The new operator has an aircraft registered to it, but it would be very surprising to see a Type A AOC granted when the only aircraft is in a hangar in Zagreb. That would be breaking new ground indeed.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 21:31
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Unless the rules have changed off late, you have to conduct a proving flight to be granted an AoC.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 04:45
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The proving flight does not have to be carried out in the actual aircraft the airline will use in service. A dry leased example is adequate. The CAA is looking at operational competency, not the aircraft itself.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 06:11
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Agreed but has it been carried out?
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