Emerald Airlines

[Jenny Tails]

It appears there is a new Irish start up vying for the EI regional business. Conor McCarthy is heading up the company.

[SWBKCB]

Dublin Aerospace - who have just taken over Flybe's engineering company

[Geriaviator]

Wasn't there an Emerald Airways working from EGAA 40 years ago? Seem to recall a couple of Daks and px version of the Short Skyvan. Memory shaky but I think the much respected Mike Woodgate flew the Daks before founding the charter company that still bears his name.

[G-MILF]

There was an Emerald Airways, based Liverpool I think maybe 10 years or so ago. Used to do a lot of cargo flying on HS748's and also passenger flights to Isle of Man on ATP's which eventually got taken over by Manx. They had their AOC suspended by the CAA and then ultimately disappeared from memory.

[fjencl]

if they win the contract then it will be interesting what type of aircraft they bring in to operate the routes. Time will tell .

[SWBKCB]

It won't be Atp's...

[feroxeng]

Geriaviator - Quite correct on the history of Emerald Airways. Founded by Walter Scott, but there wasn't the business and the Skyvan 2 with horrible Astazous was less than perfect. I was Flight Test Engineer on production testing on both G-ATPF and 'G. G-ATPF was the first Skyvan flown with the big back door open - a very small claim to fame and mark in history!
Graham

[CabinCrewe]

fjencl

I dont think there would be any surprise with a glut of ex EIr ATRs and BE DH8s.

[sunnybunny]

G-MILF

I flew with emerald to Isle of Man once. Interesting experience as there was a bad thunderstorm in the way , the pilot tried to avoid by going past Dublin then decided to just go for it through the middle. Quite scary!

the return was less exciting , we had to wait 90 minutes for our baggage. The Emerald rep told us EasyJet regularly ‘bribed’ the ground staff to service their aircraft first to achieve turn round times.

only flew with them as they were cheaper and quicker than the catamaran ferry.

[BACsuperVC10]

They were originally from Blackpool and known as Janes Aviation, they changed their name to Emerald when they moved to Liverpool where their cargo and passenger ops grew with the introduction of ATPs , it was HS748s firstly. They competed with Euromanx I think.

[Gurnard]

If I remember correctly Euromanx took over the passenger ops while Emerald continued for another year with freight. You're right that it was formerly Janes Aviation. The company had more than 20 HS748s. Not to confuse matters, the other Emerald operated Skyvans in the 1960s. Not related.

[BACsuperVC10]

It all seems so long ago now, and I cant recall everything. Did Manx become Euromanx ? Anyhow when they were both operating at their height the combo of Emerald and Euromanx really pushed up the passenger figures on LPL-IOM-LPL.

[Webby737]

Nothing to do with the old UK airline, but it looks like Connor McCarthy (of Dublin Aerospace) has applied for a new Irish AOC.
Interesting to see if it happens !
https://www.irishtimes.com/topics/to...erald+Airlines

[Dougal McGuire]

EI Regional contract awarded to Emerald Airlines, as per the Irish Independent
McCarthy clinches contract for Aer Lingus Regional
https://www.independent.ie/business/...-39745380.html

[The96er]

interesting news, no doubt Stobart’s involvement with the Flybe/Virgin venture did them no favours with IAG.

[allan1987]

While this interesting, im going to guess the Cityjet buying Stobart Air might be cancelled then?

[SWBKCB]

Without the EIR contract, does Stobart Air have a value? This does seem to have moved very quickly.

[The96er]

Who would want to buy and airline with £100 million liability and no future work. Stobart were looking to sell the airline by the end of the year !

[Alteagod]

Almost bizarrely quickly, almost as if its all part of a bigger picture that us mere mortals don't know what all the parts are.

[theexpandingman]

Surely a deal has been done between this new Emerald outfit and Stobart Group for the sale of Stobart Air to Emerald. Nothing else makes sense.

Emerald are about a month old with no aircraft, staff or track record. They must be buying Stobart Air and have based the bid around that and maybe the promise of injecting some cash.