Quarantine if you arrive from Spain from midnight 25/7/2020
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If the intention was to achieve herd immunity (aka herd thinning) it hasn’t worked either. Recent studies estimate that only 10-20% of Stockholmers have developed antibodies, and there is still no scientific proof that these either survive long enough or are capable of fighting off the infection for a second time.
If the intention was to achieve herd immunity (aka herd thinning) it hasn’t worked either. Recent studies estimate that only 10-20% of Stockholmers have developed antibodies, and there is still no scientific proof that these either survive long enough or are capable of fighting off the infection for a second time.
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What about connection flights? I’m supposed to go to turkey via LGW from Spain..
If you leave the airside and go groundside, that's where it becomes tricky, but I think most staff will be reasonable if the travel is out on the same day within a few hours. lets face it the damage is already done.
"so you are flying from a high Covid infected area to the U.K."
much of Spain has lower rates than much of the UK
much of Spain has lower rates than much of the UK
But it's all about the trends. The UK new case rate is easing up, the Spanish rate is climbing. Today there were 60 new cases per million folks in Spain, the UK 12.4. With the Spanish all going to the costas and islands and the young seemingly not giving dos hoots (this week has seen an average of 14 flights BCN-PMI) the change to quarantine looks prudent.
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When you arrive in the UK, you will not be allowed to leave the place where you’re staying for the first 14 days you’re in the UK (known as ‘self-isolating’) unless you’re arriving from an exempt country.
If I fly (for example) from Madrid to the UK, I am required to go straight from the airport to my home and then stay at home for 2 weeks apart from a few exceptions - funeral, court, medical need or buy food if I can't get a delivery from Tesco or a friend to help. Anything else and I'm liable for a £1000 fine if PC Plod decides I'm not self isolating without good reason
How exactly does taking a plane to France in that 2 week period count as self isolating or having good reason ? I'm not trying to argue the merits of the idea of self isolation - more that I don't see how a period of self isolation is compatible with leaving the country in the middle of the 14 days
How exactly does taking a plane to France in that 2 week period count as self isolating or having good reason ? I'm not trying to argue the merits of the idea of self isolation - more that I don't see how a period of self isolation is compatible with leaving the country in the middle of the 14 days
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Anti bodies gone after 4 months. New research shows T cells, which is another way we fight off viruses such as the common cold are very effective against Covid. Sars survivors had T cells that recognise the virus and similar coronavirus 17 years after their infection.
I voted for this government but they seem to be fixated on Covid deaths (Even those who were hit by a bus) and nothing else.
Actually that’s not true, they are very keen on getting us all cycling.
I voted for this government but they seem to be fixated on Covid deaths (Even those who were hit by a bus) and nothing else.
Actually that’s not true, they are very keen on getting us all cycling.
Anti bodies gone after 4 months. New research shows T cells, which is another way we fight off viruses such as the common cold are very effective against Covid. Sars survivors had T cells that recognise the virus and similar coronavirus 17 years after their infection.
I voted for this government but they seem to be fixated on Covid deaths (Even those who were hit by a bus) and nothing else.
Actually that’s not true, they are very keen on getting us all cycling.
I voted for this government but they seem to be fixated on Covid deaths (Even those who were hit by a bus) and nothing else.
Actually that’s not true, they are very keen on getting us all cycling.
I mean, really, does Hancock have a clue?
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If I fly (for example) from Madrid to the UK, I am required to go straight from the airport to my home and then stay at home for 2 weeks apart from a few exceptions - funeral, court, medical need or buy food if I can't get a delivery from Tesco or a friend to help. Anything else and I'm liable for a £1000 fine if PC Plod decides I'm not self isolating without good reason
How exactly does taking a plane to France in that 2 week period count as self isolating or having good reason ? I'm not trying to argue the merits of the idea of self isolation - more that I don't see how a period of self isolation is compatible with leaving the country in the middle of the 14 days
How exactly does taking a plane to France in that 2 week period count as self isolating or having good reason ? I'm not trying to argue the merits of the idea of self isolation - more that I don't see how a period of self isolation is compatible with leaving the country in the middle of the 14 days
Why am I saying "protect"? Because, the way it currently is, self-isolation is a joke. You are "quarantined", but nonetheless you can go shopping? Then what's the chance that someone will not use that as an excuse to go wherever they wish and, if stopped by the police, explain that they were going to the Tesco further down the road because the one closest to their home doesn't sell whatever food they want today? Now, obviously, if they catch you sunbathing in the park this excuse won't work - but if you're just walking in the street it's pretty hard to prove that you weren't going to the shop indeed. In other countries being quarantined means being completely banned from leaving your home, no matter the reason. Even going across the street to throw away the rubbish can get you arrested. If you need medical help, you call an ambulance and they come to transport you, treating you in the exact same way as a confirmed COVID-19 case. End of story.
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Actually, he does, or at least his advisors do. The spikes are happening almost exclusively within family units from certain backgrounds - the likes of which are unlikely to be seen visiting pubs. I believe it’s the Eid celebrations starting, you should be able to figure out the reasoning and the timing from that.
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Meanwhile, with people saying they feel more safe abroad I just love this confession from a holidaymaker quoted by the BBC.
They've even taken a mini-break from social distancing. Ben, 39, and his wife Nadia, 37, decided they wouldn't be too strict on their children adhering to Italy's one-metre rule during the 11-day holiday, so they have mixed with other young families staying in the complex.
"If someone had plonked us here and we didn't know about coronavirus, we wouldn't know the difference. You honestly wouldn't know that there's a pandemic."
"If someone had plonked us here and we didn't know about coronavirus, we wouldn't know the difference. You honestly wouldn't know that there's a pandemic."
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The issue centres on the Muslim communities who don’t go to pubs and don’t normally go to restaurants.
Meanwhile, with people saying they feel more safe abroad I just love this confession from a holidaymaker quoted by the BBC.
So who needs protecting more, the British in holiday mode or the locals? It is inevitable that with Brits feeling safe their guard drops. The Government has to factor in British mixing with the British while abroad.
Meanwhile, with people saying they feel more safe abroad I just love this confession from a holidaymaker quoted by the BBC.
So who needs protecting more, the British in holiday mode or the locals? It is inevitable that with Brits feeling safe their guard drops. The Government has to factor in British mixing with the British while abroad.
And if Eid really is the reason, why does this lockdown apply to the north and not to Birmingham or various areas of London?
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So let me get this right, it does in Luton based on a list of postcodes so therefore it does across the whole of Greater Manchester along with various relatively nearby areas? Please tell me how you arrived at that conclusion
There's a plain man's guide to the rules here: How the rules requiring 14 days of self-isolation for arrivals to Britain work, but here's the relevant extract:
Is there any way to shorten the two weeks in self-isolation?
The only way legally to end the 14 days of quarantine is to leave the country again.
You could, for example, go on a city break to Rome, return for a few days of self-isolation, then take a holiday to Portugal, Croatia or another destination that is welcoming British travellers.
You would need to begin a fresh round of two weeks of quarantine on your return.
The only way legally to end the 14 days of quarantine is to leave the country again.
You could, for example, go on a city break to Rome, return for a few days of self-isolation, then take a holiday to Portugal, Croatia or another destination that is welcoming British travellers.
You would need to begin a fresh round of two weeks of quarantine on your return.