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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 13:55
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EGNH bans banners

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53152212

Is this wise for an airport authority to get involved in?
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Already being discussed in "Jet Blast"
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 16:26
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Ah so it is, although they seem to be debating the politics of it all.

I'm just wondering where EGNH airport authority comes into it all. Apparently there was a BLM banner flown by the same company a few days before, does the airport now censure the legitimate business on its premises? Who decides what is acceptable and what is unacceptable? Genuine question - maybe try and avoid the politics of it in this discussion!

Does an airport authority now take its guidance from the Daily Mail and Twitter to see who is outraged and react accordingly?
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Can this ban be cancelled quietly in a few weeks time ?
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Ah so it is, although they seem to be debating the politics of it all.

I'm just wondering where EGNH airport authority comes into it all. Apparently there was a BLM banner flown by the same company a few days before, does the airport now censure the legitimate business on its premises? Who decides what is acceptable and what is unacceptable? Genuine question - maybe try and avoid the politics of it in this discussion!

Does an airport authority now take its guidance from the Daily Mail and Twitter to see who is outraged and react accordingly?
Frankly I'd have thought that Blackpool airport can ill afford to pick and choose who operates from there and what they do or don't do. Perhaps the Daily Mail and the Twitterarty would like to pick up the bill for lost revenue!
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Surely the airport has the freedom to chose who it does business with?
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 17:20
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Is there a CAA rule saying that a banner has to be picked up from an airfield, could it be collected from a suitable piece of land and the aircraft operates from home base.
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 18:47
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Rather than the message on the banner, how does a SEP aircraft towing a banner over a city comply with the ANO regarding landing in the event of an engine failure?

There may be a case to answer by the pilot/AOC holder over that, imho
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 19:03
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Well as long as he was 1500’ above the highest obstacle, the flight was legal.

And if 22 players wore shirts that said BLM, what’s the problem with a banner saying WLM??
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Vortex,

As I said, I didn't want to talk about the message so as to detract from my point (I may agree with your sentiment, or not), but to look at the legality of the flight.

From what I could see fromlimited FR24 data, the 182 was at 1400ft. Now, I don't know what the QNH was etc, but EGCC is about 240ft amsl, so that, to me, would suggest that limits were being pushed, at the very least!
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You’d think after Mr Farage’s Election Day mishap that wing of politics would steer clear of the banners. Clearly it was an ethically questionable slogan or it would have said “All Lives Matter”. Perhaps the operator needed the business too much to say no although it was never going to end well for them in terms of coverage
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Old 23rd Jun 2020, 22:53
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Surely the airport has the freedom to chose who it does business with?
The only possible outcome of flying a white lives matter what’s division and outrage, clearly that was the intent of this.

Ethically yes, the airport does have a responsibility to not allow this sort of business. In the same way that social media companies crack down on fake news and offensive material. Most of it perfectly legal, just not acceptable ethically.
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The modern world is definitely crazy, masses and masses of people just waiting to be offended and outraged by everything and anything. I see the pilots name has now been revealed on the poison that is social media, that cannot be right or reasonable in anyones viewpoint.

Maybe I just don't get it, I find it hard to understand an airport authority getting involved in policing banners that incidentally the local plod stated there was no criminal offence committed. It just seems to set a tricky precedent, what next? Will airports refuse arriving private aircraft because they are wary of the passenger on board being controversial? Will every private pilot have to justify his/her/nonbinary intentions to the local airport manager before being given permission to fly?

Maybe if airport managers ran airports, police actually police crimes, we all just wised up and live and let live. Maybe life would be easier? Maybe i'm naive!!
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Another woke bit of nonsense.... What the hell is wrong with the UK these days?
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We are living in 1984 - group think all the way !
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Oh dear, there was meant to be a BLM banner next week and Blackpool have banned it.
Now they either have to lift the ban or have a protest arrive on their runway next week.

This is is exactly why they should have stayed neutral, they’ve messed up big time, BLM UK is after them.
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Is there a CAA rule saying that a banner has to be picked up from an airfield, could it be collected from a suitable piece of land and the aircraft operates from home base.
No flight below 500’ would put paid to that, unless an exemption was obtained.
Doesn’t matter if Blackpool have banned such flights, just go to another airfield else (farm strip) to pick it up...
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Ah yes the 500 foot rule.
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Old 24th Jun 2020, 08:49
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EGNH bans banners

Originally Posted by Meester proach
We are living in 1984 - group think all the way !
If the truth were but known, tens of millions of Proles out here cheered as I did when seeing that someone had the courage to fly that banner in the face of all the brainwashing. Maybe there should now be a statue of the pilot erected at the entrance to Blackpool Airport.
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