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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:51
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Dutch Govt know there is no downside of banning flights from UK, it makes a good headline and reality is people if go to there can fly to BRU and take a train, or take a ferry.
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Friends live in Swale district in Kent, top tier for weeks, local newspaper journalist asked as there are a number of jails on Isle of Sheppey is the infection rates there being used to define the whole area around.

Politely told of course because they in the Swale district, said Govt official went really quiet when it pointed out to him that "as whole point of prisons is to lock people up then how many prisoners including lifers were out wandering the streets of Swale on a daily basis". Journo stopping getting any responses to questions after that
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Belgium has imposed a ban on flights and trains from the UK. Germany is considering a similiar ban.
Update - Austria and Italy will also apply a ban to flights from the UK. France is considering a similiar ban
Source - BBC + Sky

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Bild reporting Germay want a ban on all UK flights to continental Europe from midnight tonight until 6th January.
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Ireland now also banning flights from UK.
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People being controlled by media and govt headlines. They no longer have to be true but if they incite mass panic so much the better..
Stop at 'controlled by media'. Truth never sold newspapers.
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A group of scientists advising the government on coronavirus has released the minutes of a meeting about the new virus variant on Friday, which led to Saturday’s announcement.

https://khub.net/documents/135939561...=1608470511452

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Old 20th Dec 2020, 16:24
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Bild reporting Germay want a ban on all UK flights to continental Europe from midnight tonight until 6th January.
If we have introduced our own ban why does it matter who bans us? Compare this reaction to how the world reacted to China in January.
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If we have introduced our own ban why does it matter who bans us?
But we haven’t introduced our own ban.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 17:04
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I have friends travelling on Monday and Tuesday but have to wait for the airline to canx - otherwise no insurance. Two friends due to visit elderly parents in MAD had their Covid tests at 15:00 yesterday and the announcement an hour later.

This new variant has, apparently, been emerging for some time but no word from the govt until - effectively - too late.
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
Stop at 'controlled by media'. Truth never sold newspapers.
Good point.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 17:20
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And so the madness continues,The UK Covid patsy.So when this new variant takes hold in all these countries currently banning UK flights what will there actions be then? Surly then they must ban all flights domestic and international,close all borders and we all live happily ever after.
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This new variant has, apparently, been emerging for some time but no word from the govt until - effectively - too late.
Or until it was convenient !
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Neighbour travelled across to Ireland last weekend for work, he brought wife and kids, he figured Uk heading for a Christmas lockdown so hired a house for them all. Planned to come back Christmas eve if lockdown didn't happen but now extended until after New Year.

Give him credit though as all the Christmas presents are sitting in his garage, will open it in the morning so DHL can pick up all the gifts. As he only been to Ireland for work at 2-3 day stretches then he figures it will be magical and different.
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Oh you complete cynic, surely you don't believe a Govt that has shown such competency in handling this pandemic would stoop so low................... hmm see you point there.
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The 2022 restart of Aviation looks a stretch.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 17:56
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BBC reports:
In the UK, it was first identified in the middle of October from a sample taken in September.
They made no warning that something had changed. Even on 1st Dec they obviously knew that matters were changing rapidly. Last Wednesday in the House of Commons, Johnson said that Christmas was going ahead - yet he must have known of the developments of the previous 8 weeks and where the numbers were going.

As was pointed out in The Guardian today, Boris postpones making a decision until all of the options have foreclosed with the passage of time. Then he is left with one option and trumpets that as the best option.
The pattern is one of resisting taking the necessary steps at the time when they would have been most effective and then being compelled to implement them late and with more damaging effect.
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He must have a remarkable talent for making people keep their gob shut.
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According to the bmj there are already 4000 variants of this virus which would mean around 14 announcements a day. The paper about this variant was only signed off by scientists on Friday but was first spotted in September as just another mutation.

SARS-CoV-2 is an RNA virus, and mutations arise naturally as the virus replicates. Many thousands of mutations have already arisen, but only a very small minority are likely to be important and to change the virus in an appreciable way. COG-UK says that there are currently around 4000 mutations in the spike
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4857

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I think this latest narrative is going to unravel quite quickly on this one - just a hunch.
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