Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
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Perhaps just as well then that Covid should mask that little disaster quite neatly.

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I’m glad others are posting things like this because it’s only a few short months since being told on here I was mentally ill just for daring to critique the Prime Minister and Government’s approach.

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Transport Secretary Grant Schapps has rejected travel industry requests for airport testing on arrival as an alternative to two weeks of self isolation.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
I took a slightly different context from this article. Still not great news either way.

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Transport Secretary Grant Schapps has rejected travel industry requests for airport testing on arrival as an alternative to two weeks of self isolation.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
How about overflights???? if they do not have a legal framework then their is not a lot of places we would be able to fly to

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Transport Secretary Grant Schapps has rejected travel industry requests for airport testing on arrival as an alternative to two weeks of self isolation.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.

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If flights to/from the EU are grounded from January, it will be as a result of EU intransigence in not allowing these issues to be dealt with in separate agreements. The colonialists will only sign a single overarching "trade" agreement with their former colony, and are quite happy to damage it in whatever way they can. (compare the speed and efficiency of Britain's decolonisation in the early and mid-sixties).
Anyway, back to Covid-19, and again, while the UK is in transition out of the EU the 27 are being pretty reasonable with regard to quarantining arrivals from here, despite horrendous case inflation in recent weeks. We are still being treated favourably as we are still one foot in, one foot out. From January I would expect, as a true third country, to find our unrestricted movement to European countries somewhat curtailed, which piles yet more pressure on the air travel industry, and the travel sector more widely.


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From January I would expect, as a true third country, to find our unrestricted movement to European countries somewhat curtailed, which piles yet more pressure on the air travel industry, and the travel sector more widely.
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I was listening to an interview with Eddie Wilson this morning, CEO of Ryanair DAC on this. Surely you can see the ridiculousness of having a green list with zero countries on? Not (yet) implementing the guidance from the ECDC / EU. And considering at the peak of the peak, the air border from Ireland never (and wouldn't have ever) closed per the GFA, I don't understand why this CTA is being ignored.

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Transport Secretary Grant Schapps has rejected travel industry requests for airport testing on arrival as an alternative to two weeks of self isolation.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.
Schapps has also acknowledged that flights between the UK & The European Union could be grounded from 1.1.21 in the event of a no deal Brexit as there is no legal framework for them to continue to operate.

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Cousins daughter tested 5 times over 6 weeks and positive 4 times, only on negative test could they return to work. Aside from watching lots of netflix and gaming they suffered nothing aside from drop in income for 6 weeks.

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So you assume NHS staff don't work hard over christmas anyway ? Funnily enough my NHS acquaintances feel they work hard all year round, covid or no covid.

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I was listening to an interview with Eddie Wilson this morning, CEO of Ryanair DAC on this. Surely you can see the ridiculousness of having a green list with zero countries on? Not (yet) implementing the guidance from the ECDC / EU. And considering at the peak of the peak, the air border from Ireland never (and wouldn't have ever) closed per the GFA, I don't understand why this CTA is being ignored.
My neigbour due to get married in Aug will return to Ireland in Nov for 6 weeks, hoping she can get married in late December and that is based on likely having grandparents, parents and siblings at a maximum.
Our stages of opening and now lockdown seems almost a carbon copy of what I read weeks ago being applied in Ireland, somehow people coming from Ireland don't appear to be the risk as their total cases are less than UK have had since Monday.

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Racedo, Unfortunately, Ireland is following the trajectory of the UK. The 7 day average of new cases is just over 800 a day (yesterdays single day was 1084). Grossed up to the population size of the UK that is over 12000 new cases a day, about where the UK was 8 or 9 days ago.
In Western Europe, bar Germany, ( which is showing a rising trend) the unfortunate truth is that governments of all colours have tried differing strategies and arrived in roughly the same place.
I suppose we could lobby for all borders to be opened up as we are similar in infection rates. But I don't think any government would tolerate too many foreigners in their national health systems.
In Western Europe, bar Germany, ( which is showing a rising trend) the unfortunate truth is that governments of all colours have tried differing strategies and arrived in roughly the same place.
I suppose we could lobby for all borders to be opened up as we are similar in infection rates. But I don't think any government would tolerate too many foreigners in their national health systems.
