Coronavirus Impact on Air Travel
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The UK Gov't has its own scientific advisors like Sir Patrick Vallance and he was hardly supportive of quarantine, so they won't pay much attention to what South East Asia and Australia think. You can't have quarantine for tourists but not for business travellers as the virus does not discriminate. British Airways said that there was no consultation and no scientific evidence provided to support the policy; that weekly commuters from France or Germany (ie Prof. Teo Yik-Ying comment about green lane arrangements) can be exempted. That was an economic decision and not a health decision..
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As a layperson my take on this virus is as such,this badboy has about blown itself out,3 weeks ago they told us due to the over crowded beaches all over the south of England and that the end was nigh,the second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh etc.BALONEY. So onward I say to another landing at that magical Runway 05/23 LPMA/FNC.
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Isn't the reason that it's really hard to catch the virus outside, like almost impossible???
Problem has always been airborne droplets from infected people's mouths and noses which disperse incredibly rapidly outside in the smallest of drafts.
Problem has always been airborne droplets from infected people's mouths and noses which disperse incredibly rapidly outside in the smallest of drafts.
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Outside your less likely to get it as you would be in hot weather, most issues are with it being far more infectious inside hence the issue with winter time as everyone is inside.
https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/artic...ation-guidance
The actual wording on the Gov.uk website is as follows: "You are strongly encouraged to check in baggage to the aircraft hold and minimise any hand baggage. This will speed up boarding and disembarking and minimise the risk of transmission."
The actual wording on the Gov.uk website is as follows: "You are strongly encouraged to check in baggage to the aircraft hold and minimise any hand baggage. This will speed up boarding and disembarking and minimise the risk of transmission."
Last edited by WHBM; 14th Jun 2020 at 14:12.
Now the industry has long been keen to divert hand baggage to the hold, especially as most have now found some way to collect additional revenue from so doing
During his weekly video conference with Spain’s regional premiers, Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez announced today that the country will reopen its borders with all European Union and Schengen-area countries on June 21. The exception will be Portugal, which will have to wait until July 1 on the request of the Portuguese government. Spain’s King Felipe VI and the Portuguese Prime Minister António Costa will hold a ceremony on that day to reopen the Spain-Portugal border.
Government sources confirmed on Sunday evening that despite having left the bloc earlier this year, the United Kingdom is still considered an EU member state given that it is in a transition period and enjoys full membership rights. This means that UK travelers will also be able to enter Spain from June 21.
The state of alarm will also end on June 21, meaning that residents in the country will be able to travel freely once more throughout the territory
From June 21, travelers arriving in the country will no longer be required to stay in quarantine for two weeksTravelers from outside the European Union and the Schengen free-travel area will be permitted to enter Spain from July 1, the prime minister explained, provided there is a reciprocal agreement on travel and taking into account the epidemiological situation in the country of origin, among other factors.
Government sources confirmed on Sunday evening that despite having left the bloc earlier this year, the United Kingdom is still considered an EU member state given that it is in a transition period and enjoys full membership rights. This means that UK travelers will also be able to enter Spain from June 21.
The state of alarm will also end on June 21, meaning that residents in the country will be able to travel freely once more throughout the territory
From June 21, travelers arriving in the country will no longer be required to stay in quarantine for two weeksTravelers from outside the European Union and the Schengen free-travel area will be permitted to enter Spain from July 1, the prime minister explained, provided there is a reciprocal agreement on travel and taking into account the epidemiological situation in the country of origin, among other factors.
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Government sources confirmed on Sunday evening that despite having left the bloc earlier this year, the United Kingdom is still considered an EU member state given that it is in a transition period and enjoys full membership rights. This means that UK travelers will also be able to enter Spain from June 21.
The fly in the paella is that the UK still has an all but essentially travel warning still in force and a quarantine for returning visitors.
This will probably do Spain a favour by keeping new cases out of their country for a few more weeks.
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If we were outside the EU I would suspect they would treat us as a favoured nation due to the massive tourist trade from the UK.
The fly in the paella is that the UK still has an all but essentially travel warning still in force and a quarantine for returning visitors.
This will probably do Spain a favour by keeping new cases out of their country for a few more weeks.
The fly in the paella is that the UK still has an all but essentially travel warning still in force and a quarantine for returning visitors.
This will probably do Spain a favour by keeping new cases out of their country for a few more weeks.
Quarantine - you mean an unenforceable quarantine?
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It will still put people off just like having no Coronavirus cover. In fact with the government advice not to travel unless essential the whole policy would normally be void.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/
Which? is currently unaware of any travel insurance policies that will cover any coronavirus-related claims except for emergency medical treatment. But for as long as the FCO’s advice remains in place, many policies won’t cover you for anything if you choose to travel. Certain travel insurance policies have a ‘general exclusion’ that means they don’t have to provide protection for anything when you’re away – from lost baggage to life-threatening injuries – if the FCO has advised against travel
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/ - Which?
Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/ - Which?
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It will still put people off just like having no Coronavirus cover. In fact with the government advice not to travel unless essential the whole policy would normally be void.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06...vel-insurance/
One suggestion was the only reason the FCO is still blanket advising against all essential travel was to avoid diplomatic relations being damaged with countries that would not be advised to travel to which is crazy if true.
But that is how the Foreign Office has long worked. Their most important thing in the universe is to avoid upsetting prickly foreign officials of selected countries, and the most effective way to do that is to have one rule for all. This is notable for example with UK airport security. Every transit passenger is rescreened, from everywhere, as if we do not trust any foreign security. Of course we would do, for some, but if there were selective rules the ones in the Not Trusted camp would take the hump - in fact, they are commonly the group more likely to.
Covid in the USA is still higher than other countries. I'm not sure how Trump would react if the UK put the USA in the "too dangerous to visit" category while putting Mexico in the "safe" category...
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No other country has had much issue with saying where you can and can't go selectively, we just seem to be a bit too polite to offend anyone!
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The Americans have us banned still so surely no issue, although Mexico is having a lot of cases so assume if it does open to Mexico with the air bridge it would be CUN only.
No other country has had much issue with saying where you can and can't go selectively, we just seem to be a bit too polite to offend anyone!
No other country has had much issue with saying where you can and can't go selectively, we just seem to be a bit too polite to offend anyone!
Beyond Europe and Asia, I really can't see how air bridges to any other areas are in any way feasible.
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Mexico "safe"?? Pull the other one! In fact if you look at the trend of new cases the USA is treading water / falling a little though after the BLM demos gawd only knows what will happen; Mexico on the other hand, along with most other countries, aside Canada, in the Americas is still reporting increasing numbers.
Beyond Europe and Asia, I really can't see how air bridges to any other areas are in any way feasible.
Beyond Europe and Asia, I really can't see how air bridges to any other areas are in any way feasible.
Mexico may be saved by its size if regions are secure?
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I see New Zealand, who has not had a new case of Covid for 24 days has two new cases. Both women, who are from the same family, had travelled from the UK and were given special permission to attend the funeral of a parent as the country still has closed borders.
This just highlights again how another country’s problem can cause issues on the other side of the world and how we got infected in the first place.
This just highlights again how another country’s problem can cause issues on the other side of the world and how we got infected in the first place.
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Reports today that Air Bridges will be announced June 29th to come into force July 4th (FCO advise to change)
Countries muted are:
Greece
France
Portugal
Spain
Gibraltar
BVI
Bermuda
so far.
Could be a boost for TUI/Jet2
Countries muted are:
Greece
France
Portugal
Spain
Gibraltar
BVI
Bermuda
so far.
Could be a boost for TUI/Jet2
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