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Old 30th Jul 2020, 17:45
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Alicante now cancelled for this season, per Eastern.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 17:49
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Airport had its first ever flight from/to Abuja this week flown by a Hawker 4000, must have been some major buisness.
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Old 30th Jul 2020, 18:22
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A joint statement issued on behalf of Teesside International Airport and Eastern Airways tonight said: “We are very disappointed to announce that this year’s Alicante summer service will be cancelled due to the ongoing impact the coronavirus is having on the airline and holiday industry and the introduction of a quarantine for those travellers returning from Spain. We have listened to the feedback from customers and their wellbeing and safety is always our number one priority. To ensure this we will always follow Foreign and Commonwealth Office travel advice. All customers will be contacted and a full refund will be offered. We would like to thank our customers for their understanding during this challenging time for us all and we are currently working on an expanded Mediterranean service for summer 2021."
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...vid-19-crisis/
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 11:13
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KLM

Looks like a patchy re-start from KLM.

Barely once a day during August and come early September, still only once a day; so the re-start plans look to be not as robust as previously billed.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 11:39
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Originally Posted by P330
Looks like a patchy re-start from KLM.

Barely once a day during August and come early September, still only once a day; so the re-start plans look to be not as robust as previously billed.
Don't think is has ever been quoted as being more than one a day to start with and then more as demand develops? Re-start is patchy everywhere.
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Cornwall Airport Newquay will now run all year round and the three-times-a-week Dublin flights will launch on September 25.
Teesside International has also revealed Eastern Airways’ daily Monday to Friday flights to Southampton for the hugely popular cruise market will begin on September 7.
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...sside-airport/
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'Hugely popular cruise market.' Someone's been asleep for the last 6 months.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 12:25
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Don't think is has ever been quoted as being more than one a day to start with and then more as demand develops? Re-start is patchy everywhere.
It was slated to be twice a day from the 3rd August ramping up to 3 times a day from September; so definitely a slower start than has been billed for the last few weeks.

Agree; it’s the same everywhere. Newcastle now 3 times daily from Sept (was to be 4) with the 6am out downgraded to a 190.

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'Hugely popular cruise market.' Someone's been asleep for the last 6 months.
Also not really "on message" with the mayors regional connectivity focus, unless major inward investment deals regularly get brokered in cruise ship dining rooms.
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Old 31st Jul 2020, 13:41
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The Newquay flight was upgraded again today to the Saab. That route seems to be doing really well although I suppose we could have seen that as it’s now going year – around. With no Newcastle – Newquay flight it would be interesting to see where passengers are originating.
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Originating? My 3 friends from Wylam Northumberland!😀
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 11:40
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Originally Posted by toon22
The Newquay flight was upgraded again today to the Saab. That route seems to be doing really well although I suppose we could have seen that as it’s now going year – around. With no Newcastle – Newquay flight it would be interesting to see where passengers are originating.
It's just a case of swapping the Saab between the Belfast & Newquay flight as the J41 does the opposite flight. Good to hear it's proving popular!

Amsterdam is back once a day from Monday, I think it was due to increase to two a day from mid September, returning to the usual 3 daily from October winter timetable change. I wouldn't be surprised if demand is lower than expected for European travel.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 14:14
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Originally Posted by apaul
'Hugely popular cruise market.' Someone's been asleep for the last 6 months.
What do you expect them to say? "We're re-starting the flights in the hope that the luke warm cruise market might deliver something"?

The cruise market must only represent a small portion of the target audience because otherwise it would never have been a twice daily flight.
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The cruise market must only represent a small portion of the target audience
So why mention the cruise market at all and hold yourself up to ridicule?

Why not say we are launching another route to a key business area, helping industry get back on its feet? This after all is the reason for investing taxpayers money into the airport, not to make foreign holidays more convenient.
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Good points SWBKCB..however as we all know PR. Works in funny old ways..especially now!

The Mayors plans ,through no fault of his own ,have Now gone out of the window. The dreams of only 9/12 months ago are nightmares now?

So ,he had 20 million to use, to get the airport up to higher desired levels...this Is now a financial disaster as it must be costing a fortune ,regaining the airports hours and staffing?
That money as was always the case could have been better utilised on local transport infrastructures?

There is no doubt all routes are being helped along the way with financial backing..probably keeping airlines like Eastern afloat!

Airport wont survive on Cruise bookings to Southampton..eh! no cruises guys.
It won’t survive on holidays to Newquay and Cornwall
And the core routes of Amsterdam and Aberdeen are stuttering.

Of course it’s not just here...the majority of UK airports are in the same boat.

Vaccine anyone? 🤞
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 16:36
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Starting a route from MME to LCY at the beginning of July was less than brilliant. This route was always going to be business targetted - Eastern with puddle jumpers can't possibly have the economy of scale that comes with a 737 - leisure travellers would likely stick with the train against high fares. Corporate offices began emptying out in March and Zoom has taken over from business travel. Even if there had not been a pandemic, a business-centric route always sees low demand in July/August with people on holiday.

The London City route has to generate respectable numbers of business travellers in September and October. If not, it's a waste of subsidy
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 18:03
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David Johnson you make good points the only thing I would say is the fares are not high
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Cautious Optimist - I agree the fares are not high (I flew one way for less than £50 !) but Eastern must be burning through large quantities of subsidy cash if they need to sell seats at fares comparable with 2nd class advance booked train fares to get a non trivial load factor. I can only guess that prices are this low because there is a desperate need to show something productive is being achieved.

One should be seeing a material difference in price when booking 2 days in advance... with separation of those who value time versus price. If that can't be achieved in the autumn, it shows there just aren't enough people to need the air route to LCY
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Cautious Optimist - I agree the fares are not high (I flew one way for less than £50 !) but Eastern must be burning through large quantities of subsidy cash if they need to sell seats at fares comparable with 2nd class advance booked train fares to get a non trivial load factor. I can only guess that prices are this low because there is a desperate need to show something productive is being achieved.

One should be seeing a material difference in price when booking 2 days in advance... with separation of those who value time versus price. If that can't be achieved in the autumn, it shows there just aren't enough people to need the air route to LCY
Hmmm - I refer you back to my post #540
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Newquay

On a brighter note, Newquay is getting a Wednesday flight until 16/9. The fares, up to £182 o/w for the coming week show they may have found a little gem down at the seaside.
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