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Old 26th Jun 2020, 10:25
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What's happening with Stobart at the airport? They usually get included in such press releases, but haven't been for a while
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 10:34
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Did the airport really need Stobart, the current management know all of the contacts and seem to have done most of the deals of recent. The mayor just pops up to claim the glory after everyone else has done the work, I suppose he produced the cash.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 11:51
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Did the airport really need Stobart, the current management know all of the contacts and seem to have done most of the deals of recent. The mayor just pops up to claim the glory after everyone else has done the work, I suppose he produced the cash.
quite...very much doubt there’d be any flying if there was no cash
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 13:41
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Makes you wonder if the cash will keep coming with councils around the country worried about going bankrupt!
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 13:50
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Can someone tell me if the number 12 bus between the airport (almost) and Darlington is running or has it been suspended because of Covid ? Am thinking of buying a ticket between MME and London on the first day...
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 14:00
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So, the Eastern thread appears to confirm that they didn’t get slots for a LHR route. My humble pie can go back in the fridge....
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 14:44
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Depends when those slot allocations were submitted. If pre-COVID, could now be a different picture.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 14:46
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Kudos to them for trying
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 15:25
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I believe (could be wrong) that the slots applied for the summer season were to come out of BA's portfolio, former Flybe slots held for domestic routes until recently. Just because Eastern weren't awarded any of their own doesn't mean it won't happen. As it turns out if it was to start it's probably not going to be on 6th July as that would be far too soon.
Oddly there's still been no mention of the Southampton route starting which is still bookable as I post this.
Good news on Amsterdam returning, even though we all knew it was bookable from 3rd August anyway.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 15:28
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I believe (could be wrong) that the slots applied for the summer season were to come out of BA's portfolio, former Flybe slots held for domestic routes until recently. Just because Eastern weren't awarded any of their own doesn't mean it won't happen. As it turns out it's probably not going to be starting as advertised on 6th July. Oddly there's been no mention of the Southampton route starting which is still bookable as I post this.
All slightly confusing as Eastern had announced SOU - DUB to start 23/07 but this is still not bookable and no mention on social media for weeks!
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 15:52
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Oddly there's still been no mention of the Southampton route starting which is still bookable as I post this.
Yes - still bookable and at the low prices mentioned in the 10,000 seat sale, but not mentioned in any of the publicity or recent press releases.

Also, 10,000 seats is about what KLM carry to AMS in a normal month. That's an awful lot of Jetstreams...
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 18:15
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I just wonder what the actual landing fees would be for Eastern at Heathrow if successful..does this cost come out of the pot or do Eastern cover that?
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 18:23
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Makes you wonder if the cash will keep coming with councils around the country worried about going bankrupt!
Its not local council money its the mayors spending pot direct from central government.
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Old 26th Jun 2020, 18:31
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does this cost come out of the pot or do Eastern cover that?
What do you think??

Its not local council money its the mayors spending pot direct from central government.
Yes, the mayor has made it clear that funding for the airport comes from central taxes and won't have an impact on local council taxes. That's not to say that "in these difficult times" priorities can't change, but he has said again today that investment "won’t come on a bus, it will come through our airport terminal."
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My understanding is that the most important route being launched out of MME as part of its revival is the one to London City. I know that Covid has slashed demand, but it's now Wednesday evening and for a business-centric route that opens on Monday, I would have expected fares to start to be higher than the entry level by now - or at the very least something saying "only 2 tickets available at this fare". I hope that everything works out ok, but am wondering if, given that July/August are always quiet for business travel, the MME relaunch should have been maybe delayed to September
Before anyone accuses me of being a party-pooper, I've bought a ticket for the route...
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 18:18
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
My understanding is that the most important route being launched out of MME as part of its revival is the one to London City. I know that Covid has slashed demand, but it's now Wednesday evening and for a business-centric route that opens on Monday, I would have expected fares to start to be higher than the entry level by now - or at the very least something saying "only 2 tickets available at this fare". I hope that everything works out ok, but am wondering if, given that July/August are always quiet for business travel, the MME relaunch should have been maybe delayed to September
Before anyone accuses me of being a party-pooper, I've bought a ticket for the route...
I noticed looking earlier it's been reduced to once a day for next week too.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 18:18
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
My understanding is that the most important route being launched out of MME as part of its revival is the one to London City. I know that Covid has slashed demand, but it's now Wednesday evening and for a business-centric route that opens on Monday, I would have expected fares to start to be higher than the entry level by now - or at the very least something saying "only 2 tickets available at this fare". I hope that everything works out ok, but am wondering if, given that July/August are always quiet for business travel, the MME relaunch should have been maybe delayed to September
Before anyone accuses me of being a party-pooper, I've bought a ticket for the route...
Look forward to a Flight Report.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 18:27
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DJ6 - couple of points - just wondering why you think LCY is the most important of the new routes, and do you think normal commercial considerations apply to these routes for the next 12 months?
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 19:41
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Teesside has been having a hard time economically compared to the rest of the UK since the recession of 2009. If any of the new routes is going to lead to investment in the region and future jobs, it's a route to London. If a London route doesn't work, we're looking at housebuilding in 5 years time...
Should normal commercial considerations apply immediately post pandemic ? No, but each route has to go some way towards earning its keep...
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 05:51
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Should normal commercial considerations apply immediately post pandemic ? No, but each route has to go some way towards earning its keep...
See post #534 -
investment "won’t come on a bus, it will come through our airport terminal."
The MME project isn't about airlines making profits - it's about promoting the region and facilitating investment, so fare levels and passenger numbers are irrelevant for the time being. It could just take one passenger on one flight for the project to pay off, so I doubt whether many backward steps will be taken before next years election. I don't think Eastern are carrying much commercial risk.
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