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Old 4th Feb 2020, 18:08
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Originally Posted by No-More-Bullschit
Looks like Balkan have doubled Bourgas for the summer
Twice weekly for next summer 2021, flights will be Thu & Sun to Bourgas
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The article on the Gazette's website certainly reads like this summer, but the press release on the TVCA website is clear that it is 2021

Balkan Holidays has today (Tuesday 4 February) announced that it is doubling the number of its flights to Bulgaria from Teesside International Airport for summer 2021, following excellent sales for its 2019 and 2020 services.

Teesside Airport Doubles Summer Sun Flights With Balkan
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 15:29
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More good news. I like it.

Do we know what days the flights will run next year and what the length of the summer period is?

I suspect we will know soon if the Palma flights are selling well enough to return in 2021, and indeed whether these will grow and include new destinations.

With the airport now busy in theory during the day, the marginal cost of staffing for further flights must be negligible meaning more money to be made for every new flight they bring in. (Peel axed charters because they couldn’t justify the expense of manning minimal flights).
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Do we know what days the flights will run next year and what the length of the summer period is?
#301 says Thurs and Sun

I suspect we will know soon if the Palma flights are selling well enough to return in 2021, and indeed whether these will grow and include new destinations.
The Spanish tour operator JetsGo only offer flights to Palma from any of their points of origin.

Peel axed charters because they couldn’t justify the expense of manning minimal flights
I've always struggled with this arguement - doesn't take many people to turn round a 737
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 19:10
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Would still like to see at least one other new operator. I know we do have the flights to Palma the rest are just existing operators trying a different spin.
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I hear that the embraer 170 is coming to operate on the MME - LCY - MME and also the MME - DUB - MME routes.
How true that is we will have to wait until the seat maps are loaded into the booking engine of the web site
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I guess that would be extended to the LCY route too?
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I hear that the embraer 170 is coming to operate on the MME - LCY - MME and also the MME - DUB - MME routes.
How true that is we will have to wait until the seat maps are loaded into the booking engine of the web site
Mayor must have deep pockets. Weren't the flights meant to be on sale today? Flybe website only showing direct flights from DTVA (still) to CWL and ABZ
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Mayor must have deep pockets. Weren't the flights meant to be on sale today? Flybe website only showing direct flights from DTVA (still) to CWL and ABZ
It has been noted in a few circles.
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I have no doubt the routes could grow into the Embraer 170, but seems a bit big to start off with
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Mayor must have deep pockets. Weren't the flights meant to be on sale today? Flybe website only showing direct flights from DTVA (still) to CWL and ABZ
Apparently on sale 9am Monday morning.
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All new routes are now on sale via online travel agents (but not on flybe.com).

All fares (for the moment anyway) to/from LCY, SOU, IOM, BHD and DUB are £80.95 each way (even the DUB-MME leg which doesn't attract APD) although some of the return flights are a few pennies cheaper. Most flights to CWL are now also £80.95 as are the Tue-Fri ABZ flights (Sun & Mon are a lot more expensive). You can also book connections onto FlyBe's network which will open up a lot of new destinations.

I booked the inaugural MME-LCY on 27 April.
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Seemingly E145 operating MME- DUB & BHD initially. J41 to SOU and CWL

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All flights available for sale on flybe.com - most priced at around £69.95 one way.

Shame the FlyBe haven't managed to update the name of the airport on their website yet...
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Flights available to book online now

LCY flights on the SAAB 2000
SOU, BHD & DUB on the Embraer 145
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Flights available to book online now

LCY flights on the SAAB 2000
SOU, BHD & DUB on the Embraer 145
The ER4 will only be used to operate the 6 x weekly BHD and DUB services and weekday services to SOU (Sunday rotation is op by J41) from 9th March to 26th April. From 27th April a S2000 will be used to operate DUB and LCY services. Flights to BHD and SOU will be op by J41
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Old 10th Feb 2020, 15:39
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Ah that makes more sense especially the BHD. I thought the jet was a little bit of overkill!
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Old 10th Feb 2020, 19:32
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Gazette story about the tickets going on sale.

Ticket prices for new routes from Teesside Airport to Ireland are unveiled
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Airport continues to be an issue in the Mayoral election

However, Jessie Joe Jacobs, Labour’s Tees Valley Mayor candidate, has called for transparency on how much has been offered up. She said: “If subsidies are going to flights, are we going to see subsidies for buses for places like Port Clarence, where people cannot get to their local hospital without getting a taxi? I am fully supportive of our airport and I want to see it succeed, but I want transport infrastructure and the whole thing to work together. At the moment, we are failing on buses and on the railways. He (Ben Houchen) needs to keep his eye on the whole ball – not just the airport.”

Echo - Taxpayers are subsidising new Teesside Airport routes

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Old 12th Feb 2020, 07:26
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I’m conflicted in my view on this.

On the one hand, you have to do things to stimulate demand and build economies of scale. On the other, using taxpayers money to subsidise what will largely be business travel to locations where adequate alternatives already exist worries me, both ethically and environmentally. Could the money have been better spent elsewhere in the region.

For now, I’ll take the huge positive that loads of new flights are coming but it’s clear that, at least initially, these flights are not commercially viable.
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