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Old 24th Jan 2020, 17:30
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According to today's announcement, flight times are approx:

MME>LCY: 07:45-09:00
LCY>MME: 19:45-21:00

Not sure when the reverse flights will take place but these seem pretty good for a work day in London.

Surprised that Tony Burgess, the MD of Eastern, didn't seem to know that Dublin offered US pre-clearance.

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Does this mean IOM just for the TT weeks??
It sounded very much like it to me.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 17:38
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Great news and a good kick start with a business orientated network. Still room for more if they prove popular I'm sure with each aircraft only doing three flights a day there's still going to be space in the schedule.
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Agree with mmeteesside great news on the new routes, but sorry, slight concern they haven't attracted an additional operator.
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Originally Posted by rhutch28
Anyone any idea what aircraft they will be using for the new routes, will it be the Jetstream 41 and the Saab 2000??
3x E190s are on order and the E170 is due back. Not sure if they'll be allocated to MME though...
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Which of these MME routes would warrant a E190?
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Originally Posted by Be a good chap
more sun routes added soon!
Not sure launch of a few short haul Eastern routes translate to launch of 'sun routes' ?
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 07:54
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Originally Posted by bigjim99
3x E190s are on order and the E170 is due back. Not sure if they'll be allocated to MME though...
Pretty sure that they stated in an article that they'll be for ACMI work. Probably with LCY as a target.
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 08:34
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I don't think Eastern will be going anywhere near LCY on an ACMI after last time's fiasco.

The schedule bounces about before settling down with 2 x J41 and 1 x S20 based at MME when everything is running by the end of May.

Saab 2000 on 2 x LCY and 1 x DUB
J41 on 2 x SOU, 1 x ABZ
J41 on 2 x ABZ, 1 x CWL, 1 x BHD

There's no statement on when flights will go on sale or where. Mention of Flybe was very much absent from yesterday's announcement and I can't tell if Eastern is playing down the Flybe element or Flybe is distancing itself from Eastern. Or possibly both!!!
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 08:51
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Albert have you got a link to where all that info is?
Just all articles yesterday pointed to 37 extra flights and adding of 185,000 seats which doesn't add up if you only base 1 S2000 and two J41.
Otherwise they are trying to include the Aberdeen in the added 185,000.
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 09:03
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What's your calculation then as to the annual capacity increase on offer? I make it about 163,000 per annum excluding IOM.
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 09:21
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
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What's your calculation then as to the annual capacity increase on offer? I make it about 163,000 per annum excluding IOM.
I'm just saying the numbers dont add up!
But a s2000 3 rotation a day 6 days a week gives around 93,000 extra seats so on that rough basis you'd need two S2000 based to add an extra 185,000.
Very rough calculation.
Which is why I asked for a link if possible.
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It would not surprise me if the IOM sector ends up as MME-IOM-BHD-IOM-MME as the routes bed down.
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I make it about 146,000 new seats per year - it's certainly not 180,000 unless you count in Aberdeen.

London City 10 weekly flights x 50 seats x 52 weeks = 52,000
Southampton 10 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 30,160
Dublin 6 weekly flights x 50 seats x 52 weeks = 31,200
Belfast 6 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 18,096
Cardiff 5 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 15,080
Adds up to 37 new weekly flights (as announced) but 146,536 seats before allowing for any reductions in holidays / quiet months.

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Old 26th Jan 2020, 10:43
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As the saab 2000 only hold a maximum of 50 seats, surely if the flights to LCY or dublin work well due to the flight schedule times then surely they will have to up the aircraft size to
perhaps the 170 or 190, Who knows, time will tell.

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Old 26th Jan 2020, 10:47
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
Pretty sure that they stated in an article that they'll be for ACMI work. Probably with LCY as a target.

Roger Hage, Eastern Airways’ General Manager Commercial and Operations, said: “We are pleased to see the return of the E-Jets to our fleet giving us an entry into new ad-hoc charter and ACMI markets, alongside an option to evolve our scheduled service network, especially as we expand this fleet through the year.”
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
I make it about 146,000 new seats per year - it's certainly not 180,000 unless you count in Aberdeen.

London City 10 weekly flights x 50 seats x 52 weeks = 52,000
Southampton 10 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 30,160
Dublin 6 weekly flights x 50 seats x 52 weeks = 31,200
Belfast 6 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 18,096
Cardiff 5 weekly flights x 29 seats x 52 weeks = 15,080
Adds up to 37 new weekly flights (as announced) but 146,536 seats before allowing for any reductions in holidays / quiet months.
Are none of your passengers making a return trip? Looks more like 280k seats...
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 11:17
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E-jets

Originally Posted by fjencl
Roger Hage, Eastern Airways’ General Manager Commercial and Operations, said: “We are pleased to see the return of the E-Jets to our fleet giving us an entry into new ad-hoc charter and ACMI markets, alongside an option to evolve our scheduled service network, especially as we expand this fleet through the year.”
I’ve absolutely no doubt they’ll be after the Airbus contract (CEG-BRS-TLS) for their Ejets - which Loganair currently operate after Flybmi’s demise...
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 11:29
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Originally Posted by fjencl
As the saab 2000 only hold a maximum of 50 seats, surely if the flights to LCY or dublin work well due to the flight schedule times then surely they will have to up the aircraft size to
perhaps the 170 or 190, Who knows, time will tell.
As it stand now we get all four aircraft types on the current Aberdeen run.

Eastern might as well just move completely to Teesside plenty of office and hangar space for maintenance.
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 12:41
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Originally Posted by AndrewH52
Are none of your passengers making a return trip? Looks more like 280k seats...
If you do the maths yourself, you will find that those are two-way seats. 73,000 departing Teesside and the same number coming back.
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 13:13
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A lot of these calculations seem to be based on 2x J41 and a Saab, but I think it's going to be 2x Saab and one J41. Could be wrong mind.
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