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Old 5th Aug 2020, 11:32
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
The airports website says:



No mention of any codeshares as yet, but there doesn't seem to be a full press release out, just what was said at the announcement. Does anybody know how handy the timings are for connections?
Very interesting might be codeshare with IAG?
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 11:52
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Originally Posted by allan1987 View Post
Very interesting might be codeshare with IAG?
Eastern will be flying into Terminal 2 which serves predominantly Star Alliance and Emirates.

IAG and Oneworld Alliance (Mainly BA, AA and IB) use T5 with some flights from Oneworld operating from T3 (
American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Japan Airlines, Qantas, Royal Jordanian, and SriLankan Airlines. and T4 (.Malaysia Airlines, Royal Air Maroc and Qatar Airways - (ref. wiki)

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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:05
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With KLM not rushing back..wonder if they may consider revising schedules now they have major competition?
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:10
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Originally Posted by VentureGo View Post
Eastern will ge flying into Terminal 2 which serves predominantly Star Alliance and Emirates.

IAG and Oneworld Alliance (Mainly BA, AA and IB) use T5 with some flights from Oneworld operating from T3 (American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, Japan Airlines, Qantas, Royal Jordanian, and SriLankan Airlines. and T4 (.Malaysia Airlines, Royal Air Maroc and Qatar Airways - (ref. wiki)
Yes that true that OneWorld uses T5 and few flights from T3. Although Aer Lingus uses T2
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:31
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T2 ( apart from T5) is only one that has a domestic arrival channel right?
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:42
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Have Eastern signed (or do they intend to sign) any sort of cooperation agreement with either IAG or some of the Star Alliance carriers ? Without this, I would be rather dubious about the chance of Heathrow working
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 12:47
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Have Eastern signed (or do they intend to sign) any sort of cooperation agreement with either IAG or some of the Star Alliance carriers ? Without this, I would be rather dubious about the chance of Heathrow working
But in the modern world of how things work, more and more people are using online aggregators and booking separate tickets. Itís not helpful, but hardly a huge issue for Eastern here.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 13:06
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But in the modern world of how things work, more and more people are using online aggregators and booking separate tickets. Itís not helpful, but hardly a huge issue for Eastern here.
But the business case for the Mayors investment is global connectivity, so encouraging inward investment and making it easier for local businesses to export. Making it easier for local people to get away should be a bonus and not a primary concern. I would expect business travellers to be looking for good connections and alliance benefits (like KLM offer), rather than going for self-connections.

An alternative local perspective:
Mr Houchen had been set to fight an election in May, which was postponed due to the covid-19 crisis. Labourís candidate Jessie Joe Jacobs, who will face the incumbent at the ballot box in 2021, has responded to the Heathrow announcement.

She said: ďA new flight from our airport would ordinarily be great news but we are in the middle of a global crisis. That crisis has seen the number of people flying collapse with airlines going bankrupt and airports closing. The Mayor needs to be up front with people about the cost of all of this. Heís spent £100m on the airport and thatís rising. The cost per passenger is huge. Iíve been speaking to a number of local people and honestly to those that canít get a bus off their estate or out of their village, theyíre more angry than excited at the amount of their money being spent on securing a flight to London at a time when flying doesnít feel like a priority. Politics is about priorities and people across the Tees Valley are left with third rate transport systems while a small minority receive a huge subsidy to fly to London.Ē
And yes, "she would say that wouldn't she", but gives some context for recent developments. The mayor is certainly being bold, and would counter that a time of crisis is exactly when the region should be taking these opportunities (would they have go the route 12 months ago?) and looking to get out and do business.

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Old 5th Aug 2020, 14:52
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Originally Posted by euromanxdude View Post
T2 ( apart from T5) is only one that has a domestic arrival channel right?

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Old 5th Aug 2020, 15:09
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
I'm on staycation in St Ives currently and very busy here - lots of northern accents about, but a lot less Germans than normal here at this time of year.
Plenty of free sun loungers then!!!!
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 15:25
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is there some sort of discount for smaller aircraft at LHR, otherwise will they not get murdered on landing fees?
An IAG codeshare or through agreement would be some sort of saving grace - you have to think theyíve at least considered it.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 15:48
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is there some sort of discount for smaller aircraft at LHR, otherwise will they not get murdered on landing fees?
While they are operating well under capacity this is a gift for LHR - helping regional connectivity, getting the country back on its feet and giving a Tory party rising star a helping hand. If it had been a choice between this and another BA JFK rotation or a new Chinese destination, but not nowadays...

An IAG codeshare or through agreement would be some sort of saving grace - you have to think they’ve at least considered it.
If there had been any sort of agreement, I think they'd have been shouting from the roof-tops.

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Old 5th Aug 2020, 16:58
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Wonder what the landing fee and handling charge is?
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 17:45
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Im sure industry wide revised lower rates are in play. It would be astounding if Eastern are paying pre covid handling and landing fees or any fees in any airport including LHR.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 18:08
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Eastern aren’t paying the fees..lthe mayor is!
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 20:07
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When was the last time a J41 went into LHR?
*In case one subs for the E-Jet
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 21:08
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You have to wonder how deep the Mayor's pockets are. His opponent has a fair point.

They have no slots for this winter at LHR and running an E170 into LHR is a very expensive exercise as the noise margin means that it's charged more for landing than an A320. It could be a very expensive flash in the pan.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 21:13
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I’m really struggling to see where the demand to London (LHR and LCY) from the MME area is all of a sudden, especially during the current climate.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 21:18
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
When was the last time a J41 went into LHR?
*In case one subs for the E-Jet
Not sure if it was the last time, but there was one there for sure in 2009. I believe J32 have operated there too.

Getting in is less of an issue than getting out from memory.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall View Post
You have to wonder how deep the Mayor's pockets are. His opponent has a fair point.

They have no slots for this winter at LHR and running an E170 into LHR is a very expensive exercise as the noise margin means that it's charged more for landing than an A320. It could be a very expensive flash in the pan.
Given that the booking horizon for MME-LHR goes up to 27 March 2021 (end of the IATA Winter season), where have the slots come from? The didn't get any out of the slot pool so presumably they have leased them off somebody.

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