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Old 7th Apr 2019, 16:40
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Hope they have deep pockets then, mind you they all arrived at once didn`t they

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Originally Posted by daz211


I beg to differ, here in the UK ���� we know who JetBlue are, just like we know who southwest and America are.
There is also rumours of the aircraft being fitted out in the full mint interior, so could be more like a Silverjet, Eos or Maxjet setup.
You know who they are because you're a nerd on an aviation site. The majority of the UK public would assume it's a typo for or misheard Jet2.

Your comparison with Silverjet, Eos and Maxjet indicates how successful it would be. I don't think Norwegian have anything to worry about.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 18:04
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
Under what logic "bye bye Norwegian"? Nobody in Europe has heard of jetblue. BA already compete with Norwegian on JFK, with similar fares and service levels.
Under the simple logic of:
They're already in the financial dog house
LON-NY/BOS is already at overcapacity, fares are at dirt cheap prices
Fuel at a all time high
The pound continues to slip and Norwegian booking are mostly UK outbound whereas JetBlue will be USA outbound with a stronger dollar booking
Norwegian does not have a business offering where the money is
Delta and JetBlue are going to enter this crowded market and have a fare war

The weaker player is going to have a really hard time.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 18:30
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Fuel is nowhere near an all time high.
The majority of Norwegian's US-LGW passengers are American
Nobody in Europe has heard of Jetblue. They will be the weakest player in this market.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 19:27
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
Fuel is nowhere near an all time high.
The majority of Norwegian's US-LGW passengers are American
Nobody in Europe has heard of Jetblue. They will be the weakest player in this market.
Your points don't make sense, if the majority of passengers are US pax, which I don't believe they are, they would have heard of JetBlue and therefore would travel on an airline they have loyalty too. JetBlue also has an extensive connection network from JFK and BOS and will be using a more fuel efficient aircraft type if they're using the NEOs.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 20:10
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You don't believe they are, based on your opinion, rather than any facts. Thankfully there's still a minority of us on this website that actually work in, and have acquaintances in this industry.

Norwegian have an extensive connection network from LGW, using both their own metal and easyJet, and the 787 is significantly more fuel efficient than the majority of aircraft on the LON-NYC/BOS route. They also have brand recognition on both sides of the Atlantic, unlike jetblue, who will be relying on non-affiliated, largely leisure orientated passengers from the USA.

If you think that Norwegian, a company who already fly over 1000 passengers in each direction every day on the LGW-JFK route, have significant brand recognition and a lower (and reducing) cost base than any of the competition are suddenly going to become the "weakest player" the day jetBlue announce (or don't) flights to any London airport, then you're stupid.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 20:13
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People here will have heard of JetBlue after they start advertising the route and eventually launch flights. They aren't a new start or some obscure company. You don't have to visit a huge US airport to see JetBlue aircraft either, anyone who has been to America will have at least a passing awareness of the airline. And anyway all that matters is price. When people search for cheap flights to the usa and jetp blueb popup they will go for it.

Norwegian and WestJe are two similar examples of foreign airlines entering the UK market and doing well without any previous awareness.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 20:32
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Of course, over time people on this side of the Atlantic will gain brand awareness, especially if they go all in with a huge, costly advertising campaign. However I think you're mistaken that anybody without an interest in aviation pays any attention when passing through an airport. If you asked 20 people in a UK high street if they'd heard of jetBlue today, one would probably say yes, 17 would say no, and the other two would probably say they flew with them from Manchester to Tenerife last year. Their brand awareness would increase slowly over time, but to say it's "bye bye Norwegian" the minute they choose to fly into Gatwick is moronic.

I agree that for many, it will come down to price. LON-NYC/BOS fares are already low, so undercutting the vast amount of competition in order to increase market share probably won't make jetBlue any money.
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Old 7th Apr 2019, 23:04
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People are far more canny that you would like to think as after the recent loss of several big airlines people check who
airlines are especially the business men who like to collect their points for frequent flyer offers and are very aware of who is good and bad,
after all it only takes a click to find out same as checking on the type of aeroplane they are flying on
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Originally Posted by Vokes55
You know who they are because you're a nerd on an aviation site. The majority of the UK public would assume it's a typo for or misheard Jet2.

Your comparison with Silverjet, Eos and Maxjet indicates how successful it would be. I don't think Norwegian have anything to worry about.
​It doesn't matter hugely that Jetblue are not known in London/UK, they've a great name in the US, can talk to their existing client base via email and social media, they'll sign contracts with corporates and in the UK the online travel agents will serve their purpose well, that gives them time to develop their own name in the market for direct selling. Besides they only need a small slice of the market.
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Old 8th Apr 2019, 21:40
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I would dare say maybe 50% (if not more) of people travelling to NYC/BOS from the UK will have heard of JetBlue
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JetBlue are a major player in the US. Their aircraft can be seen at most major US airports. Therefore, "aviation nerd" or not, I'd say that a good proportion of regular US bound travelers will be aware of the name. Quite a number (like myself) will have used them too.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 09:07
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So today is the day the announcement is due, JFK and BOS to London ? ? ?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 11:16
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A whole day of speculation ahead as the ‘Save The Date’ party/gathering doesn’t open its doors until 1500 ET which is 2000 BST.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 12:02
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JetBlue now holding LHR slots
B6331 BOS-LHR 0430
B6332 LHR-BOS 0650

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Old 10th Apr 2019, 12:09
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
JetBlue now holding LHR slots
B6331 BOS-LHR 0430
B6332 LHR-BOS 0650
B6331 is JetBlue’s PUJ-SJU service and those timings look awful. Don’t they encroach LHR’s night curfew on arrival?
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 18:09
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0430 arrival slot ! Night quota slots at Heathrow are like gold dust, much like daytime slots. I wonder if this is true.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 19:49
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Surely LHR don’t use night slots routinely. These slots have to be applied for on a case by case. Day by day basis

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Old 10th Apr 2019, 19:52
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There’s a cake on Instagram made to look like a suitcase with UK flags and London and Paris stickers on it.
Not exactly the best kept secret.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 20:03
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
JetBlue now holding LHR slots
B6331 BOS-LHR 0430
B6332 LHR-BOS 0650
If this is true what’s the point? They would be far better off running a proper schedule out of STN or LTN than taking those slots purely to be at LHR.

06:50 actually has some merit because you’d be there in time for a day of work, or I imagine have a wealth of onward connections. The 04:30 arrival is far too early though.
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