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Using tax payers money to take legal action against tax payers.
With one of highest death rates in the world and the reproduction rate a shave away from 1, no wonder it is time to quarantine inbound pax! Inbound numbers have been incredibly low, inconsequential.
It actually shocks me that folk want to go back to normal immediately!
With one of highest death rates in the world and the reproduction rate a shave away from 1, no wonder it is time to quarantine inbound pax! Inbound numbers have been incredibly low, inconsequential.
It actually shocks me that folk want to go back to normal immediately!
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Using tax payers money to take legal action against tax payers.
With one of highest death rates in the world and the reproduction rate a shave away from 1, no wonder it is time to quarantine inbound pax! Inbound numbers have been incredibly low, inconsequential.
It actually shocks me that folk want to go back to normal immediately!
With one of highest death rates in the world and the reproduction rate a shave away from 1, no wonder it is time to quarantine inbound pax! Inbound numbers have been incredibly low, inconsequential.
It actually shocks me that folk want to go back to normal immediately!
This sort of thing is going to blow up in Parliament. Willie Walsh and Alex Cruz have already had strong words only yesterday from the Prime Minister about their behaviour with staff conditions. Maybe they think he's not their Prime Minister, so it doesn't matter.
BA have scooped up huge government payments for furloughing staff, and also made sure they were first in the queue to scoop up government-backed negligible interest loans which seem to have totalled about £1bn. I guess this latter was justified wholly in meetings as being for "British Airways", but maybe once agreed the government were told "Oh, by the way, make the cheque out to a company called IAG, Madrid".
Knocking the flights to Leeds, centre of a lot of recent new government MPs, and cutting their BA connecting link through Heathrow, seems something from the wholly commercial-driven days, which we are no longer in. Just a morning and evening flight each way, the ones principally used by Yorkshire and other business travellers and generally the full ones, would be part of the least conditions that might have been imposed.
BA have scooped up huge government payments for furloughing staff, and also made sure they were first in the queue to scoop up government-backed negligible interest loans which seem to have totalled about £1bn. I guess this latter was justified wholly in meetings as being for "British Airways", but maybe once agreed the government were told "Oh, by the way, make the cheque out to a company called IAG, Madrid".
Knocking the flights to Leeds, centre of a lot of recent new government MPs, and cutting their BA connecting link through Heathrow, seems something from the wholly commercial-driven days, which we are no longer in. Just a morning and evening flight each way, the ones principally used by Yorkshire and other business travellers and generally the full ones, would be part of the least conditions that might have been imposed.
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Business response Scheme = Take an unpaid holiday, find another position or occupation. It was for a year but maybe extended in the current climate. You stay on the companies books.
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British Airways to auction art collection to raise much needed funds
Airline owns art by Tracey Emin, Anish Kapoor and Chris Ofili, with some works valued at more than £1m
Airline owns art by Tracey Emin, Anish Kapoor and Chris Ofili, with some works valued at more than £1m
Whilst it is good that they are selling them - why did they buy all that stuff in the first place?
Some have been displayed at the firm’s Waterside headquarters near Heathrow, but many of the 1,500 artworks in the collection have been on the walls of its executive lounges.
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In any exec lounge that I've ever been in (around the globe) I cannot recall looking at what they put on the walls. I look for a comfy seat, hopefully a little quiet or, best of all, a window with a view to the tarmac and runway. Perhaps it's just me.
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Does anyone have any further news on British Airways quarantine challenge through the courts. Its all gone very quiet in the last 10 days, as I can't find anything in the media
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Did wonder about it, but with TUI saying they've been involved in government discussions I dare say BA/IAG also have so guess waiting on the Air Bridges? Ryanair and easyJet have been fairly quiet on it too the past week or so.
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Remaining B77W on order
Saw an article in an enthusiast magazine regarding four (leased) B77Ws still to be delivered.
Link here : https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/four...veries-for-ba/
Anyone think BA will still take these? I'm guessing they will be in production, but likely not taken up. Unless taken as one for one with retired B744 aircraft. Anyone know?
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Link here : https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/four...veries-for-ba/
Anyone think BA will still take these? I'm guessing they will be in production, but likely not taken up. Unless taken as one for one with retired B744 aircraft. Anyone know?
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Yes they will be taken up. They were originally ordered to replace the 3 A-market 772s (1 already retired, the other 2 have been stored at LHR since March). With the current cargo market, these 77W’s are needed for belly capacity. BA can always stand down some 772’s temporarily.
Also, they are leased so there isn’t a large initial outlay in capital.
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Also, they are leased so there isn’t a large initial outlay in capital.
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From a social media feed , page , thingy ;
"Dear colleague
With much regret, we are proposing, subject to consultation, the immediate retirement of our Queen of the Skies, the 747-400. We know there is speculation on social media and aviation websites, so we wanted to make our position clear.
The whole airline community is reconciling itself to a bleak outlook for passenger demand. Long haul travel will take years to recover, with the major industry bodies agreeing that we will not see a return to 2019 levels until 2023 at the soonest. The bulk of our fleet is large, wide-bodied, long haul aircraft with many premium seats, intended to carry high volumes of customers. The unofficial flagship of our fleet, the 747-400 has a very special place in the hearts of aviation enthusiasts and of many of us. We know how many memories of this extra-special aircraft are shared across the BA family and our proposal to retire the fleet early has only been taken in response to the crisis we find ourselves in.
When many people think of BA today, they think of our Jumbos connecting Britain with the world, and the world with Britain. They are true icons. We love the Queen of the Skies and have operated them since 1971. We took our first 747-400 (technically the 747-436) registration G-BNLC in July 1989, and our newest was delivered to us in April 1999. There’s a great archive video about the aircraft here.
Most of our 747s are already due for retirement progressively by early 2024, and we recently refreshed the interiors of a number of them with the intention of a good few remaining years in service. They are an airliner of another era, however, and they burn far more fuel than the latest generation of planes and, logically, require more frequent and detailed attention from our engineering team. They rely on high passenger load factors and high premium demand to make them commercially viable. In short, we do not believe that these beautiful aircraft are sustainable in a very different airline industry. Subject to proper consultation, their early retirement would be accelerated over the coming months, and we would not expect any more commercial flights to be flown.
The proposal to retire the entire fleet of these iconic aircraft is nothing short of heart breaking for those of us that grew up watching them fly all over the world.”
"Dear colleague
With much regret, we are proposing, subject to consultation, the immediate retirement of our Queen of the Skies, the 747-400. We know there is speculation on social media and aviation websites, so we wanted to make our position clear.
The whole airline community is reconciling itself to a bleak outlook for passenger demand. Long haul travel will take years to recover, with the major industry bodies agreeing that we will not see a return to 2019 levels until 2023 at the soonest. The bulk of our fleet is large, wide-bodied, long haul aircraft with many premium seats, intended to carry high volumes of customers. The unofficial flagship of our fleet, the 747-400 has a very special place in the hearts of aviation enthusiasts and of many of us. We know how many memories of this extra-special aircraft are shared across the BA family and our proposal to retire the fleet early has only been taken in response to the crisis we find ourselves in.
When many people think of BA today, they think of our Jumbos connecting Britain with the world, and the world with Britain. They are true icons. We love the Queen of the Skies and have operated them since 1971. We took our first 747-400 (technically the 747-436) registration G-BNLC in July 1989, and our newest was delivered to us in April 1999. There’s a great archive video about the aircraft here.
Most of our 747s are already due for retirement progressively by early 2024, and we recently refreshed the interiors of a number of them with the intention of a good few remaining years in service. They are an airliner of another era, however, and they burn far more fuel than the latest generation of planes and, logically, require more frequent and detailed attention from our engineering team. They rely on high passenger load factors and high premium demand to make them commercially viable. In short, we do not believe that these beautiful aircraft are sustainable in a very different airline industry. Subject to proper consultation, their early retirement would be accelerated over the coming months, and we would not expect any more commercial flights to be flown.
The proposal to retire the entire fleet of these iconic aircraft is nothing short of heart breaking for those of us that grew up watching them fly all over the world.”
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Just had the message through tonight, funny how BA always delivers bad news late at night to us all in the company or on a Friday evening
Feel incredibly sad but not surprised , we new this was coming , but what an end to an iconic aircraft
My last operating flight was back in March from New York to Heathrow just before it all kicked off
An amazing aircraft, bit like a London bus I would tell customers, falling to bits but kept going !!
Feel incredibly sad but not surprised , we new this was coming , but what an end to an iconic aircraft
My last operating flight was back in March from New York to Heathrow just before it all kicked off
An amazing aircraft, bit like a London bus I would tell customers, falling to bits but kept going !!
