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Old 25th Mar 2019, 14:01
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Red faces not red noses at BA

Interesting story in British media today about BA flight from LCY to DUS landing in EDI by mistake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47691478
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 15:22
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Originally Posted by FFHKG
Interesting story in British media today about BA flight from LCY to DUS landing in EDI by mistake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47691478
Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up.

Worst we ever did at BMA LHR was MME bags put on the LPL and LPL bags on the MME
2 x DC-9's parked next to each other
I think we did it at JER as well - wrong bags and pax on wrong a/c but don't think pax ever ended up in wrong place
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 15:31
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I'm surprised the crew didn't know their north' from their 'east' by looking at the compass. I'm even more surprised that air traffic didn't say 'oi you're going the wrong way to DUS'

So will every passenger who boards a BA flight ask if they knoiw where they are going?
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 15:35
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As per the Daily Fail:
At no time has the safety of passengers been compromised. We flew the five passengers on the flight with number BA3271 to Düsseldorf after the involuntary stopover in Edinburgh.'
Not unlikely that non of the five pax had sufficient geography skills to raise an alarm, given the totay lack of orientation of the majority of folks without a sat-nav nowadays.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 16:06
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Originally Posted by rog747
Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up.

Worst we ever did at BMA LHR was MME bags put on the LPL and LPL bags on the MME
2 x DC-9's parked next to each other
I think we did it at JER as well - wrong bags and pax on wrong a/c but don't think pax ever ended up in wrong place
PIC and FO had a flight plan for EDI? So they flew to EDI because that was where they were told to go.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 16:07
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It would appear that a flight plan was filed and correctly flown from LCY to EDI, the fact that the aircraft was scheduled to fly to Germany is a question for operations and whoever filed the plan. I would imagine the despatcher also has some questions to answer, as every boarding card would have disagreed with the destination, the fuel planned, the alternates etc.

Most of us on here know better than to suggest they got "lost". There was an NWA DC10 filed to, and landed at BRU a few years back, which should have gone to FRA.......
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 16:08
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Originally Posted by rog747
Incredible ! beggars belief that not one passenger noticed that they were flying North and never went over the water (Channel) durrrrr
ACMI lease from WDL aviation Gmbh of DE. (146??) - nice views lol

Still nice load of EU compo 361 - This is def not extraordinary circumstances - its a stuff up
It won’t be just the passengers who were on the aircraft that landed in EDI that will getting a nice EU 361 payout. The WDL aircraft was planned to operate another 3 sectors for BACF after arriving in DUS. All of which are now delayed over 3hrs meaning that passengers on those flights will also be getting a payout.

BA3272 - Scheduled to arrive LCY at 10:30. Landed 4hrs 40 mins late at 15:10

BA3273 - Scheduled to arrive DUS at 13:15. Now estimated to land 5hrs 55mins late at 19:10

BA3274 to LCY - Flight Cancelled

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Old 25th Mar 2019, 16:30
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Originally Posted by mustrum_ridcully
PIC and FO had a flight plan for EDI? So they flew to EDI because that was where they were told to go.
I never said the FD crew stuffed up - but someone in Ops, FP, and load/traffic control etc obviously did lol
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If the other flights were as busy as the flight in question (five pax!!!) that will be pocket money.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 18:57
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Originally Posted by rog747
I never said the FD crew stuffed up - but someone in Ops, FP, and load/traffic control etc obviously did lol
Nothing to do with ATC, they got them to EDI as per the flight plan.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 19:18
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Originally Posted by Pringle_
Nothing to do with ATC, they got them to EDI as per the flight plan.
I never said ATC ! I said traffic (part of ops and/or load control)
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 19:48
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Like all good news stories I think there is probably more to this story than simply put forward in the press.
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Question PLF low

Originally Posted by virginblue
As per the Daily Fail:
Not unlikely that non of the five pax had sufficient geography skills to raise an alarm, given the totay lack of orientation of the majority of folks without a sat-nav nowadays.
So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 19:47
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Originally Posted by hurumbara
So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?
If it's full on the return leg, then probably yes.
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Originally Posted by hurumbara
So they take a 96-seater fourjet to fly 5 passengers somewhere. 91 empty seats. Does this make profit?
I believe the reference about the onboard passenger figure mentioned above was taken from a article published online by that Daily Mail. The article has since been edited and the reference to there being 5 passengers onboard has been removed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Scotland.html

This is because there was 61 passengers and 5 crew onboard.





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Old 27th Mar 2019, 10:14
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Indeed. The Daily Mail initially provided a quote mentioning five passengers, but has since removed the figure. I posted that older quote in this thread. Pictures taken onboard the aircraft show a rather busy cabin.

You can still read the older version of the article on this copycat site:

https://www.habaritoday.online/2019/...-to-edinburgh/
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 10:02
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Got to laugh. Reading this thread and right in the middle is a pop up advert for Specsavers. Maybe someone should have gone to..........
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How many 77Ws are BA still to recieve? There seems to be an order for 4 in the works with Boeing, but there was also talk of them taking 3 second hand ones to replace the ZZZ airframes...anyone confirm anything?
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BA have 4 on order from Boeing not sure about any second hand airframes though.
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Originally Posted by NWSRG
How many 77Ws are BA still to recieve? There seems to be an order for 4 in the works with Boeing, but there was also talk of them taking 3 second hand ones to replace the ZZZ airframes...anyone confirm anything?
I've read that the B77W order is to replace the ZZZx frames.
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