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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 21:00
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Waterford-2

There are stirrings again at Waterford airport;

Aer Southeast will begin flights this year!

Aer Southeast is now a part of a company which has its own Airline Operating License, AOC.
It's been a long road, but a lot of work has been done behind the scenes in order to secure the operation.
Due to circumstances out of our control, which included a long period of time when Waterford airport was in deep discussions with another operator, meant that we were not in a position to progress on this matter.
However, those things have been resolved, and Aer Southeast has now picked up were it left off.
More info follows in the coming days.

The ASE team.
As lifted from their Facebook page

facebook.com/AerSoutheastIRL/

I wonder who the AOC is?
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 07:55
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And who were Waterford talking to, VLM or Eastern?
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 17:02
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Looks like Are Southeast and Backbone Aviation are one and the same both rising from the ashes with in hours of each other, and same personnel listed for both.

I would not hold me breath on this happening ....once bitten, twice shy
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Some recommendation right there; we set up for the specific purpose, but the airport wanted to talk to anyone but us. Oh.

Can't see how this can work unless they can borrow branding, reputation and marketing from FlyBe, Aer Lingus or suchlike.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 21:11
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"We are part of a company which has it's own AOC" ...

How amateurish is that, either the AOC holder has bought them out or they are piggy-backing off someone else's AOC for a fee, how can they be "part" of a company? ... I would say a bunch of amateurs but previously I only heard of one name, one individual, behind this project.
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Originally Posted by The 5Q View Post
Looks like Are Southeast and Backbone Aviation are one and the same both rising from the ashes within hours of each other, and same personnel listed for both.

I would not hold my breath on this happening ....once bitten, twice shy
Someone is talking
Backbone AOC DK072 was cancelled by the Danish CAA on the 17th January when the company declared bankruptcy!!

Nothing is happening with that AOC that's for sure!
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 12:06
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They are still quoting it on their website - which has been "updated" .....

http://www.backboneaviation.dk
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Does anybody know what the finding were in the most recent report regarding the new runway extension plans?
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 22:19
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Looks like there might be some news coming out of Waterford soon.

Hopefully good news anyway!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...rt-916389.html
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Minister for Transport Shane Ross has signed off on a Government memo that paves the way for €5 million in exchequer funding to extend Waterford Airport’s runway.

The runway extension will cost €12 million in total, with the remaining €7 million to be provided by private investors and local authorities in the region.

Minister of State John Halligan says it’s “excellent news” for Waterford Airport. “Cabinet approval is required to sanction the €5 million from Government and, prior to this, a memorandum must be circulated by Minister Ross to all other departments inviting them to make observations,” he says.
https://www.waterfordlive.ie/news/ho...ep-closer.html

Extension will bring it up to 2250*45m, if given the final go ahead. Should be finalised within 1-2 weeks.
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Old 8th May 2019, 09:36
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An awful lot of money being spent. What do they hope to achieve, a daily return to Luton using a Ryanair 737? Money wasted comes to mind. A scaled down version of what happened in Spain a few years ago.
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Or if any `inducements` available perhaps Messrs STK/BEE to SEN.
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An awful lot of money being spent. What do they hope to achieve, a daily return to Luton using a Ryanair 737? Money wasted comes to mind. A scaled down version of what happened in Spain a few years ago.
Less than was spent on re-doing the runway at Carlisle!
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Old 8th May 2019, 12:55
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Or if any `inducements` available perhaps Messrs STK/BEE to SEN.
Don't need a 2250m runway for that. This is all about what can't use Waterford now that will use Waterford in the future. Got to be honest I can't think of anything. Maybe a random IT to Palma?

ILS CAT 1 maybe at one end?
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Don't need a 2250m runway for that. This is all about what can't use Waterford now that will use Waterford in the future. Got to be honest I can't think of anything. Maybe a random IT to Palma?

ILS CAT 1 maybe at one end?
Norwegian to NY, just to spite ORK.......;-)
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Old 8th May 2019, 23:48
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Loganair to Southend?
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The runway might appear a potential white elephant. Given the not so vast amount of money being invested in an infrastructural item , the upsides are many. New employment in the airport, a potential spin off for companies who may have "runway challenged" aircraft, etc.
As always ease of access. A once per day Easy air or Ryan Jet to the London area would certainly help. It all adds to the fabric of the region. Dublin, Limerick and to a lesser extent Cork are all gaining new jobs whilst the South East is effectively forgotten. So ease of connectivity to other centres of commerce will certainly be helpful...........and it might just assist the South East in being a bit less "out of sight, out of mind" with the power brokers.

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Old 9th May 2019, 14:55
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Is it true that Sligo airport, is still getting subsidies to maintain its infrastructure , despite not seeing flights for a few years .
I would have thought, that Sligo being relatively close to the border , they might have tried to convince an airline to operate .
But knowing it's been pretty much there , unused , so what is the logic behind Waterford?. Does it really stand a chance , when most Irish folk are doing what UK citizens did with the opening of the motorways , and simply drive a couple of Hours to Dublin .

That said they must be confident of capturing a larger carrier , Dublin always seems to be bursting at the seams .
So would Waterford be a good Cargo airport ? . Also what destinations are they hoping to serve ? I could see perhaps London , Manchester , Edinburgh and maybe a summer route to the usual Malaga and Alicante . But those cam be served easily by ' Ejets ' is not the current runway able to support smaller Jetliners ?.
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Old 9th May 2019, 22:57
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This is definitely a Ryanair Stansted or Luton route.
They fly to every airport in the Republic of Ireland that is able to accept a 738... plus of course there historical link.

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Old 10th May 2019, 10:39
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Who wants to come in?

Given the relative population of the Southeast.

Some time ago, there was an interesting submission in Wisconsin as follows :
https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/p...ir/lse-eis.pdf

I suspect Edinburgh would be a flight of fancy. Getting 50 people all from the South East, all wanting to go to Edinburgh on a particular day.........and do so over a longer period. I don't see this. High population density routes with economic ties to the Southeast. So London is the most obvious. And after that maybe a Birmingham and Manchester. There is perhaps an arguement for a Ryanair or Aer Lingus jet service to Malaga or Faro during the summer season.

Freight - now that is an interesting one. How does freight work? Is there enough coming out of or heading into the Southeast?

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