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Old 19th Jan 2018, 21:02
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Aer Lingus helping out Nigel on HAM and DUB from LHR for a few months.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:22
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In this day and age, how on earth is an individual able to get through TSA and the gate without a valid boarding ticket. Worse, on entering the aircraft how is it BA cabin crew did not identify an individual did not have a valid boarding ticket and corresponding allocated seat row number. Surely, a problem arises when the cabin fills up and the individual is sitting in a valid passengers preallocated seat.

This is is critical failure in passenger security and BA also got questions to answer. Granted the flight had marshals onboard but nontheless this is a serious breach of passenger security processes.

Three check points obviously breached. First at TSA airs ide entry point. Second at the gate. Third at aircraft entry with cabin crew checking tickets.
Sky News: 'Serial stowaway' boards London-bound plane
http://news.sky.com/story/serial-sto...plane-11214453
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:44
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..... Granted the flight had marshals onboard.....
..and your source for that information is?

As for TSA security point being “breeched”....well if the lady by passed security without being screened at all that would be a major foul up to say the least...if OTOH she somehow blagged her way through but was screened then perhaps the risk is perhaps not as elevated as some are suggesting. Ultimately though, no it shouldn't have happened.
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:51
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
..and your source for that information is?
U.S. in/out bound traffic, identifiable marshal visual presence to the trained eye
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Old 20th Jan 2018, 10:54
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Errr, so let’s get this right just to avoid any misunderstanding - you claim you know there was an air marshall on this BA flight?
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 15:50
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BA don’t serve Manila. The only MNL-LHR service is with PR and would involve a nightstop in London if LBA bound due rather late arrival.
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 21:35
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Three check points obviously breached. First at TSA airs ide entry point. Second at the gate. Third at aircraft entry with cabin crew checking tickets.
When did you last fly? I can't remember the last time cabin crew checked tickets...
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 22:01
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On BA longhaul flights,into and out of the UK,cabin crew check passengers boarding cards at the aircraft door on boarding,to confirm flight number and departure date.
No one can board the aircaft without a valid boarding card,if somebody does,the crew responsible for boarding will be held responsible.
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 22:13
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I suspect the point that Lee J is making is that if someone is claiming tickets are checked at the aircraft door it might perhaps cast doubts on their expertise, rigour, or credibility when commenting on other aspects of aviation security.
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Are BA still planning on leasing some A320’s from QR in April?.

Does any one know if BA planning on leasing aircraft from any other airlines for the summer season other than already announced leases from Titan and Qatar?.
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 08:02
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No Qatar aircraft. I believe BACityflyer and I think Aer Lingus as well may be operating for them.
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 00:54
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Aer Lingus are operating certain BA flights to DUB and HAM until late March. Wet lease agreement.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 08:37
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BA withdrew application for Qatar wet-lease - CAA

Application withdrawn by 16 Jan viz - CAA ORS2 2263
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/2263.pdf
No explanation given.
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Old 24th Jan 2018, 09:31
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Did I hear that the CAA were unhappy about aspects of the Qatar lease.

Wonder what it was. Did anything happen last time round ?
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 13:39
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Once again a large corporate has forgotten that - in the era of mobile phone cameras and social media - saving a bit of money can have huge consequences.

Passenger's £900 case damaged – but airline refuses compensation

Reader books BA flight, ends up on Vueling and bag ‘looks like someone had taken an axe to it’
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...on-ba-vueling?

As they appear to have ignored agreed rules, this could turn into their very own United Breaks Guitars.
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 14:28
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In my experience too, this is symptomatic of the ever-evolving new face of British Airways.

Far, far from the days of ''BOAC takes good care of you'', to ''Now we've got your money, we simply don't care''!
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 16:18
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Thats what you get when flying on a codeshare !

Whose responsible - ticket issuer or the flight operator ?

Vueling and BA are both owned by the same holding company but are quite differing companies legally speaking.

This company almost certainly bought a BA ticket for reward “bribes”.

However that damage looks to have been the actions of the ground handlers, and at one end of that flight an IAG business would not self handle.

Out sourcing at its best the modern way to avoid Responsibility in the supply chain!

With cameras everywhere these days perhaps Madrid or Milan might have footage of the conveyor system that might help.
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 18:07
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Yes Rutan16, they did not read the rules. When I book, I always check the schedules to see who is operating the sector. I saw outsourcing start down the road of 'No customer service' 30 years ago. In the UK, the Government have used outsourcing to save Politicians from blame. They dump the outsourced person or company and swan on down the river.

Nonetheless, someone trashed the case and I hope that the company pursue BA, to whom they paid the money. Could be a long haul but if they don't make progress they can write a song. Having high quality photos is the first step.
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 20:27
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Originally Posted by Lee J View Post
When did you last fly? I can't remember the last time cabin crew checked tickets...
Fly about 120 times annually all over the world, variety of airlines. Fly BA at least 6 times a month. So to answer your question, BA cabin staff check to see your seat number on your boarding ticket or on your BA app. Flew BA on Thursday, flying BA tomorrow. When did you last fly?
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Old 27th Jan 2018, 20:39
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I suspect the point that Lee J is making is that if someone is claiming tickets are checked at the aircraft door it might perhaps cast doubts on their expertise, rigour, or credibility when commenting on other aspects of aviation security.
Frankly, I haven't an idea what the poster is trying to say without having to second guess their point.

The point I made was based on the fact I travel extensively with work. I spend considerable time on flight travel, I transit loads of airports. So I'm used to the 'system' and I know the routines having been doing them for years. So I'm in a good position to comment on the checks and why points these checks take place as a standard. I've yet to board an aircraft without a cabin crew member requesting to see and examine my boarding ticket or to view it on an app where they double check the flight details and seat allocation are valid. I've no idea what that other poster was on about and can't be arsed to second guess what's on their mind. Life too short.
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