Newquay

[BA318]

Originally Posted by cornishsimon

Yep. Does look like a Nqy based unit is required for an ex newquay departure to Manchester.

still no direct heathrow loaded past March 20 I would struggle with it being dropped as it’s a pso

cs

it wont be dropped as it’s a PSO route but could be that Flybe/Virgin are shuffling slots around to make the most of what they have so perhaps the timings will change a bit.

[Wycombe]

BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue.
In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list)
Doesn't look like SAS are coming back.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Wycombe

BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue.
In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list)
Doesn't look like SAS are coming back.

SAS is onsale 2 weekly Monday and Friday from the 26th June to 11th August 2020.
Eurowings has Dusseldorf onsale 1 weekly Saturday from May to September 5th.
And Stuttgart operates from 23rd May to 15th September 1 weekly Saturday.

[OltonPete]

BHX-NQY

Originally Posted by Wycombe

BEE won't be operating to GLA, NCL, LPL or DSA next Summer (as already mentioned, LOG are picking-up GLA and NCL),
although JER/GCI (operated by BCI) will continue.
In addition to LHR, it doesn't look like BHX or BHD are yet released for S19 (these are not on their cancelled routes list)
Doesn't look like SAS are coming back.

BHX was part of the initial release but greatly reduced. I find the Flybe website absolutely useless but it seems to start Monday 25 May four times a week, then a Saturday is added in August.

It seems to end at the end of September.

Pete

[cornishsimon]

Yep. Think we won’t know the full extent of the Newquay BE network till they get around to putting the rest of the schedule on sale.

so far it looks like x2 bases dh8, 1 operates an early ex Nqy to Manchester return. Edinburgh seems to have an increase over previous years so with x4 lhr assuming it retuems
and x2 man it does leave some playing around with schedules for my assumes 2 based aircraft


cs

[cornishsimon]

Hmmmmm

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/co...athrow-3562901

poor reporting in my opinion but it does beg the question. When and if the route will go on sale ?

cs

[nonemmet]

Is the PSO a public document? Could Virgin Connect replace LHR flights with SEN flights and still meet the obligation? PSO’s are an EU transport law creation, when does the current one expire? Will an equivalent subsidy be put in place post Brexit? Obviously Virgin would prefer to use the LHR slots for their widebodies. Was it a mistake to move from LGW?

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by nonemmet

Is the PSO a public document? Could Virgin Connect replace LHR flights with SEN flights and still meet the obligation? PSO’s are an EU transport law creation, when does the current one expire? Will an equivalent subsidy be put in place post Brexit? Obviously Virgin would prefer to use the LHR slots for their widebodies. Was it a mistake to move from LGW?

I don't think that the authorities would pay them money to fly to Southend. The whole point of shifting to Heathrow was to get better connectivity to Cornwall as Heathrow provides them with access to a major hub. Flying to southend would be a waste of money.
As for the slots I believe that they are from the BA remedy pool and not Virgin Atlantic ones.

[chaps1954]

If passengers want to travel long haul come up to Manchester plenty of routes and growing

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by chaps1954

If passengers want to travel long haul come up to Manchester plenty of routes and growing

Manchester doesn't offer as much option as Heathrow does.

[GROUNDHOG]

Looks like the Council have agreed the £12 million for the spaceport today, another step nearer.

I am flying long haul BA business class from LHR next week and have chosen to simply rent a car and drop it at LHR here is why.

For two of us and masses of baggage, to drive from home to NQY ( I live West of it), check in, take the flight, collect my baggage at LHR involves an elapsed time of at least three hours and leaving my car at NQY for a month or an expensive taxi to get there.Now add the two hours I would arrive early for my departing flight, that is five hours. This involves offloading the bags at NQY and collecting them again at LHR rather than just putting them in the back of the car and the nice man from Hertz loading them on his bus and dropping me by the terminal door. Yes it will take me an hour or so longer overall to drive but I can time it to arrive exactly when I want and save a shed load of money in the meantime. LGW on the other hand was much longer to drive to and therefore to me a closer decision.
I would certainly look at MAN, GLA, DUB or anywhere else if the timings were right but none of these offer a proper business class service to YVR.
( before anyone has a go at me I know BA/AC do not fly from LGW either!)

[cornishsimon]

Hi groundhog.

goos points well made.

for information in the future flybe do still interline with BA, they just don’t codeshare so you are able to book via say Expedia and have BExxxx and BAxxx all on one ticket which would negate the need to collect bags in LHR in either direction.


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[GROUNDHOG]

Thanks Simon, good point never thought of that.

[Asturias56]

" I can time it to arrive exactly when I want"

please tell me the secret of being able to forecast exactly how the traffic around Exeter, Bristol and LHR can be forecast to allow this?

My travel times by car from LHR to mid Cornwall have varied from 3:45 to 6:30 over the last year..............

[GROUNDHOG]

Asturias56. Of course I can't tell you in advance whether my drive will be delayed any more than I can tell you whether my flight will be delayed, nor can I tell you next weeks lottery winning numbers.
Logic dictates you leave in plenty of time, then adjust your speed and route of progress accordingly, not so hard to do with modern technology.
What you do highlight with that comment is the added flexibility of driving over flying, if there is adverse weather for instance I can just set off earlier or even the day before, you can't necessarily do that when you have a flight booking you are committed to.
My journey times to LGW have been between 5 and 10 hours, LHR 4 hours and 7 hours....hence the reason I say LGW was more beneficial to me than LHR.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by GROUNDHOG

What you do highlight with that comment is the added flexibility of driving over flying, if there is adverse weather for instance I can just set off earlier or even the day before, you can't necessarily do that when you have a flight booking you are committed to.

But in turn you highlight a drawback of driving - if there’s adverse weather you’ll likely have to set off anyway not knowing if you’re going or not. And then potentially spend a night or two stuck in a (potentially expensive) hotel you’ll probably have to pay for out your own pocket, possibly without a car because it’s in the pre-booked car park.

Or you could be at home until your new flight goes, which might be your original route or a detour via MAN or somewhere else.

[GROUNDHOG]

But I want to fly from the UK to Canada having my flight from NQY a day later isn't going to help. The car question is why I always do a rental with Hertz apart from not wanting to leave my own car at the airport for s month.
just checked the fare one way for our dates with four bags two people and the cost is over £350

[Asturias56]

That's my point - whatever method you use you have to take a view on possible delays - if I MUST be somewhere I travel a lot earlier (a day extra for intercontinental trips) than if "it would be nice to arrive at..."

Driving to/from Cornwall can be a very pleasant experience - but it can also be the third circle of hell. Overall the train is best - but until they put in the Reading- LHR link connection it's not very good for connecting.

Hard to damn the air connection on those grounds IMHO

[GROUNDHOG]

Certainly not damning the air connection, I have used it in the past and will again BUT the onward travel circumstances have to be right to fit in. I was a great advocate of LHR but every time I have looked at using it the fares have been prohibitive or the timings do not connect.

[cornishsimon]

Still no actual word from flybe or Nqy re LHR post March 20

but in other news the Loganair NQY-NWI service has been scrapped before the first flight has taken place. This is due to Loganair closing the NWI base
https://www.edp24.co.uk/business/fli...lled-1-6406616

cs