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Old 25th Sep 2018, 17:08
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Originally Posted by CandyBender View Post
Am I missing something, or have Eastern given up again? I just went to book GLA-IOM in October and can't find any reference to the route on either Flybe or Easterns websites..... Looks like it'll be Virgin Trains and the "Ben".....
Yea the flight has been dropped.

Loganair do flights from Edinburgh a few days a week.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 17:21
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Thanks for confirming what I suspected.....hopefully LM will start GLA as well as EDI.

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Yea the flight has been dropped.

Loganair do flights from Edinburgh a few days a week.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 17:45
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Originally Posted by CandyBender View Post
Thanks for confirming what I suspected.....hopefully LM will start GLA as well as EDI.
They have had a lot of requests for Glasgow on Facebook and each reply has been this is something we will look into for Summer 2019
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 21:20
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I notice the BACF service to London City now operated by Loganair is showing much improved reliability and punctuality well done Loganair! Given the improved service I would encourage as many people as possible to use this service and ensure it is maintained to at least its current frequency. There is nothing more powerful for maintaining a route than airlines realising people want to use it! It remains the best timed most frequent service into London with speedy connections right into the heart of London.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 11:42
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
I notice the BACF service to London City now operated by Loganair is showing much improved reliability and punctuality well done Loganair! Given the improved service I would encourage as many people as possible to use this service and ensure it is maintained to at least its current frequency. There is nothing more powerful for maintaining a route than airlines realising people want to use it! It remains the best timed most frequent service into London with speedy connections right into the heart of London.
Have to say, as someone who uses this route a few times a month, I am MUCH preferring Loganair operating it.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 08:27
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Same here!

The cabin of the Loganair aircraft also seems to lack the ingrained muck that used to adorn every nook and cranny on G-CDEB and G-CDKA.
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 17:59
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And the 40kt crosswind capability of the Saab didn't hurt too much this morning either...
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Old 12th Oct 2018, 18:05
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Any plans for a BA paint job?
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 10:40
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Any plans for a BA paint job?
Eastern crews wore BA uniform and the safety cards carried BA branding; Loganair crews wear Loganair uniforms and the safety cards are Loganair's. The only passenger facing BA bits are the airport/cabin announcements, inflight magazines, website booking engine and flight numbers. So far we have seen 2 Loganair airframes on the route. I think a BA paint job is thus unlikely..
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 02:28
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Loganair may be dropping the Saab 2000's on the IOM-LCY route for ATR's. I hope Flybe consider using a Q400 into LHR from IOM, which they operate on the LHR-EDI route. If only they would offer a regular Embraer service.

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Old 1st Nov 2018, 12:20
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My understanding is that Loganair are dropping the Saab 2000s (and Dornier 328s) asap and are replacing them with six (IIRC) Embraer 135/145s - which are no good for IOM-LCY as either too small or not certified. As I understand, the ATR42-600s will join at at laterp oint as a replacement for the Saab 340s. So it appears the Loganair Saab 2000 will need to be replaced sooner than later by BACF.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 20:56
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EGNS Can you clarify the Flybe LHR-EDI comment
I hope Flybe consider using a Q400 into LHR from IOM ...
does that mean we are regaining a direct from LHR??
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 23:28
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The Embraers arenít direct replacements for the Saab 2000s, some of the 2000 routes will be picked up by ATRs. As stated, there are some routes the Embraer simply canít do.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 23:48
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
EGNS Can you clarify the Flybe LHR-EDI comment does that mean we are regaining a direct from LHR??
No chance of IOM-LHR being restored. EGNS clearly in a land of complete fantasy!
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Old 9th Nov 2018, 18:44
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EU takes action against Isle of Man over tax loophole on private jets
European commission writes to UK over Ďabusive practicesí in crown dependency
The Guardian
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Old 10th Nov 2018, 08:12
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" EU takes action against Isle of Man over tax loophole on private jets
European commission writes to UK over ‘abusive practices’ in crown dependency "

In other words, they haven't found anything unlawful. They just don't like the tax systems in the UK and Italy. Not really a surprise.
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Old 10th Nov 2018, 08:40
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Further up the article it says the Commission "has launched infringement proceedings" - so not just a warning, this has a long way to go.
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 20:58
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FLYBE PUT UP FOR SALE

Likely buyers are Stobart or Private Equity groups. Wouldn't it be ironic if Stobart buys them (as they also looked at doing a few months ago) just before they were leaving the IOM based Manchester & Liverpool Flybe franchise routes

http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-and...-sale-11553619

Brexit and fuel costs force airline Flybe to put itself up for sale

Sky News13 November 2018

Flybe, the UK-based airline, is putting itself up for sale weeks after a savage profit warning triggered by currency volatility and higher fuel costs sent its shares plunging.

Sky News has learnt that the Exeter-based carrier, which said last month that it expected to lose £12m this year, will announce to the London Stock Exchange (Other OTC: LDNXF - news) on Wednesday that its board has begun exploring a sale to or merger with a rival.

Bankers at Evercore have been brought in to handle the talks about a potential deal.

Sources said a combination of Brexit-related uncertainty‎, the weaker pound and soaring fuel costs had led Flybe's directors to conclude that a takeover was likely to be required to preserve its future.

The news will be disclosed alongside Flybe's interim results.

One potential suitor is likely to be Stobart Group, the owner of Southen Airport, where ‎Flybe is based, bankers said on Tuesday evening.

Stobart, which is the focus of a bitter courtroom battle between board members and its former chief executive, abandoned a previous bid ‎earlier this year.

Flybe, which is now valued at just £25m by the stock market, remains one of the UK's best-known airline brands, carrying thousands of passengers between second-tier British airports and European destinations.

The carrier has cut hundreds of jobs and closed unprofitable sites as it has sought to exert a grip on costs amid an intensifying industry price war.

At the end of September, Flybe retained a fleet numbering 78 aircraft, and has promised investors that it would continue to reduce capacity to focus on its most popular routes.

"Consumer demand in domestic and near-continent markets has weakened in recent weeks and the board now expects this to continue into the second half," the company said last month.

"This together with higher fuel prices and weaker sterling will impact the expected second-half profit performance."

Christine Ourmieres-Widener, Flybe's chief executive, said at the time that the company was focused on "stronger cost discipline...against the headwinds of currency and fuel costs".

It was unclear which other airlines might be interested in acquiring Flybe, although bankers speculated that turnaround funds would examine offers to take the company private.

Apart from the Brexit-related impact on sterling, the UK's departure from the EU is also causing profound uncertainty for investors in British airlines with a no-deal outcome still a possibility.

A Flybe spokesman declined to comment.
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 21:33
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Itís most denfinatly been brewing for a while if Stobart take over it will most likely drive it further into the ground
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 21:53
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Originally Posted by EZYMAN View Post
Itís most denfinatly been brewing for a while if Stobart take over it will most likely drive it further into the ground
Surely ownership by a much larger firm with wide reach and deep pockets will give a greater level of security at least for the immediate future?
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