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Old 15th Mar 2020, 12:04
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
You want capacity, put more trains on those tracks, there's plenty of room! Some people will believe anything.
Nonsense. There isn't room, given the mixture of local, freight, and express trains.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 12:16
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Originally Posted by gnarlberg View Post
then everybody would sell stocks very quick and stocks would be in a freefall
Like they are at the moment?
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 13:04
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
You want capacity, put more trains on those tracks, there's plenty of room! Some people will believe anything.
Youíve obviously never been on the West Coast line - standing room only and it has to support local services. You would have to be a magician to put more trains on those tracks 😂

As another poster has mentioned itís the same companies that are now asking for support that were screaming when it looked like Flybe would get support apart from SRB who again was looking for free money from the Government.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 13:25
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Youíve obviously never been on the West Coast line - standing room only and it has to support local services. You would have to be a magician to put more trains on those tracks 😂

As another poster has mentioned itís the same companies that are now asking for support that were screaming when it looked like Flybe would get support apart from SRB who again was looking for free money from the Government.
How much of this potential support will go straight onto the pockets of the Lease Companies who actually own a substantial proportion of the Airlines fleet's (Not just Virgin of course) .

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Old 15th Mar 2020, 13:39
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
You want capacity, put more trains on those tracks, there's plenty of room! Some people will believe anything.
Wow! The lack of awareness of that remark is amazing....
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 13:53
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A number of keen observations made. I had served for 43 years in the aviation industry and wish serving colleagues the very best in this dire situation. However, I am opposed to to government bail outs! In particular as at this time and for the immediate future we do not know what we are going to be bailing out, I would rather see the monies helping those that will inevitably lose their jobs in general not just in aviation. The fiscal global market is on the brink for the majority of us!
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 13:55
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... normally I'd agree with you, but I'm sure in your 43 year career, you've not seen anything as chaotic and desperate as this. And that includes 9/11.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 15:22
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Given the ability of airlines like Delta, AA and BA to survive previous events, government loans should be available.

But going back to say, Flybe, it seems clear that the £100m the allegedly requested wouldn't have saved them anyway given developments.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 15:22
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna View Post
Wow! The lack of awareness of that remark is amazing....
Indeed. HS2 is about capacity not speed.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 15:26
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
VS still have 7 x 747-400's (AFAIK they are owned) on their books - As you say not sure if all 7 though are in full service.

7 x 450 seat units are quite a large chunk of one's fleet.
They have paid for themselves many times over as people movers - same as BA's.

VS use them to MCO (Disney, and now all the USA is closed) and the Caribbean (many islands are now shutting doors)
Came back from BGI this morning on the Millenium Falcon aka GVLIP and they had managed to squeeze in 468 of us according the crew, not a seat left in the house.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 15:43
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And it looks like they may have made their mind up concerning the next few weeks, bang goes my early May Florida trip.

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Old 15th Mar 2020, 20:54
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I guess Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway flight to Florida is now cancelled?
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 21:26
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Originally Posted by crewmeal View Post
I guess Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway flight to Florida is now cancelled?

Yes that's correct
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 21:44
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Originally Posted by crewmeal View Post
I guess Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway flight to Florida is now cancelled?
Wouldn't say cancelled. It is of course not running as planned but people have been promised the flight will go ahead at a "later date" (that is, if Virgin survives of course).
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 04:16
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So good time to scrap HS2 project and redirect cash into the aviation industry! More important than knocking 20 mins off a London Birmingham train ride?
Excellent idea, direct it into the aviation and into research and development for electric aircraft and alternative fuels. Do that and there will still be billions left for other uses.

4-tracking Milton Keynes-Rugby and Rugby-Birmingham would knock the 20 minutes off the journey time at a fraction of the costs.


Indeed. HS2 is about capacity not speed.
Really? then why is it designed for 250 mi./hour trains, much faster than the 180 mi./hour trains on high speed rail in the rest of Europe?
Also, the faster the trains, the lower the frequency.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 08:21
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Really?
Yes - the capacity increase is on the WCML following removal of the high speed services when HS2 opens. At the moment the mix of speeds on WCML is the limiting factor for paths as all slower traffic has to sidestep into loops as the much faster Pendelino traffic is given a clear run.
When those units are withdrawn the remaining regional, local and freight trains will be able to be rebalanced with a new timetable giving the capacity increase mentioned.
I'm pretty certain that many travellers are still not aware that their high speed trains to Euston will be withdrawn at some stage......
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 08:47
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Originally Posted by Fairdealfrank View Post

Really? then why is it designed for 250 mi./hour trains, much faster than the 180 mi./hour trains on high speed rail in the rest of Europe?
Also, the faster the trains, the lower the frequency.
May as well make it faster as youíre only going to build it once and we want to be better than Europe🤣

So us pro HS2íers have won the argument so back onto what the forum is about VA

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Old 16th Mar 2020, 13:52
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Independent reports 75% of fleet to be grounded by end of March, rising to 85 % in April
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 13:55
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Independent reports 75% of fleet to be grounded by end of March, rising to 85 % in April
Virgin will fly 11/46 aircraft from Wednesday and 6/46 from March 26th
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 15:27
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Newark being dropped permanently it seems. It’s where it all began but with Delta at JFK, there’s just no love there.
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