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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:35
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"several unforeseen misfortunate events" As far as I know the only misfortunate event was starting all those silly transatlantic routes in the first place. 'Cobbler, stick to your last', they should have sticked to the Scandinavian holiday business, like they have been doing for 14 years.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:06
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Sad news as already mentioned especially for the employees but it was obvious to some of use that it was just a matter of time, just rank bad management. Might give two other airlines which fly transatlantic services who are in a poor state financially some breathing space if they can get over the winter period.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:16
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A very sad day indeed. The last arrival tonight is the 10.37 from AGP with OY-PSE.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:24
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A321N disposition...

3 at STN.
2 at CDG.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:43
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
A321N disposition...

3 at STN.
2 at CDG.
EWR / BOS / IAD AND YYZ, Were all due into Stansted Tomorrow morning, most of the inbound passengers still have not got a clue they are stranded, but good news for the inbound AGP passengers en-route to STN I wonder what the aircraft will do once on the ground at STN.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:46
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rank bad management
From the viewpoint of someone just observing this sad outcome, it seems that Airbus bear some responsibility also.

Late deliveries and one not capable of delivery at all seems like a contributory factor, at the very least?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:48
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Originally Posted by daz211


EWR / BOS / IAD AND YYZ, Were all due into Stansted Tomorrow morning, most of the inbound passengers still have not got a clue they are stranded, but good news for the inbound AGP passengers en-route to STN I wonder what the aircraft will do once on the ground at STN.
The IAD and EWR out from STN were both canx this afternoon, so I assume those a/c are still sitting in London, and the corresponding returns tonight will not be operated

The Inbound AGP will likely be impounded like the others?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 20:20
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
Might give two other airlines which fly transatlantic services who are in a poor state financially some breathing space if they can get over the winter period.
I assume one of these you refer to is white and red and from Norway, if so crossover with Primera is minuscule so not sure what Primera has to do with anything. Who is the other one?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 20:32
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Well hate to say I told you so when someone asked about time to command and I replied that is the least of your worries.

Having been involved with Norwegians narrow body long haul ops from the start I know only to well the costs involved, yes we drivers made loads of money out of it, but and it’s a big but we started with brand aweness and long haul experience.

Fortunately no no shortage of jobs right now and most will be hovered up within a few days.

Norwegian are not out of the woods yet with sky high fuel prices but we have the newest greenest fleet out there.

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Old 1st Oct 2018, 20:54
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My condolences to all staff involved as well and I hope they find new jobs soon enough, Its a shame to see this airline go as I feel there was some potential to do well, but alas the quick expansion and base announcements coupled with the late aircraft arrivals may have proved to be too much.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 22:19
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If this airline was in such a tight corner finance wise, why were they busy announcing new bases/ routes from several European airports? That I just don't get.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 22:21
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Originally Posted by True Blue
If this airline was in such a tight corner finance wise, why were they busy announcing new bases/ routes from several European airports? That I just don't get.
I would guess to get advanced bookings to get money rolling in then play catch up.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 22:22
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Obviously best wishes to all those who now need to find gainful employment.

What surprises me most, however, is talk of late deliveries, etc. leading to this situation. Wouldn’t there have been a penalty clause regarding late delivery? A clause which would cover unexpected leasing costs? Or am I just too naive???
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 22:41
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Gut wrenching reading that our crews stranded downroute are paying out of their own pockets (IAD/NYC/YYZ-LON) to get themselves home.

Absolutely disgusting, and not cheap either. All phone lines to the company no longer work, just left to fight for themselves.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 23:34
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Looked at them only last week for booking a T/A flight from Stansted............. wondered about success rate as remember Maxjet etc from there.

I think oil at $100 a barrel plus is going to start biting very quickly across all airlines.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 07:39
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The second airline airportplanner is Icelandic with three letters. An article in a holiday trade paper last week they admitted they had not paid any fees to Icelandic airports this year amounting to nearly $14 million. With the the rise in oil prices I hope they had hedged some fuel.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 07:50
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What surprises me most, however, is talk of late deliveries, etc. leading to this situation. Wouldn’t there have been a penalty clause regarding late delivery? A clause which would cover unexpected leasing costs? Or am I just too naive???
No doubt there would have been penalty clauses/payments, but the late deliveries in themselves led to the disaster that was the National 757 hire-in, and the resulting operational trouble and reputational damage.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:36
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I was lucky got BHX-AGP yesterday afternoon now I understand the captain's sign off to us as we were closing on Malaga.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:45
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
I was lucky got BHX-AGP yesterday afternoon now I understand the captain's sign off to us as we were closing on Malaga.
What did he say?
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 09:54
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Its 'Goodbye' from me and 'Goodbye' from him
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