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They have in-house experience. The new Primera Fleet Chief of Airbus also launched the Etops and 330 at WOW air ... so there is qualified staff.
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You make comments on here talking like premier air is some kind of start up airline put together by 3 teenagers in a shed with big ambitions.
I’m sure they are not just sticking pins in a map and making up dates that they might hope they will be ready for and I’m sure they have more idea than you do on how to run an airline and move onto new ventures.
You make comments on here talking like premier air is some kind of start up airline put together by 3 teenagers in a shed with big ambitions.
I’m sure they are not just sticking pins in a map and making up dates that they might hope they will be ready for and I’m sure they have more idea than you do on how to run an airline and move onto new ventures.
Must admit that I'd been thinking along similar lines to Skipness. Always thought that when making significant changes you keep the number of variables as low as possible.
How many other airlines are operating the A.321NEO under ETOPS?
ps S1E didn't even mention that the ops would be from multiple new bases!
How many other airlines are operating the A.321NEO under ETOPS?
ps S1E didn't even mention that the ops would be from multiple new bases!
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Airbus would certainly have more than a little vested interest in ops of this type & it must be doubtful they would leave a potentially huge market segment for Airbus with a lone pioneering airline without "support" of some kind...same sentiment from lessors too perhaps.
It's disappointing that the carrier couldn't at least give Boston a season's trial. Read elsewhere it seems many prospective pax had already booked the route only to find the rug pulled. It's a bad management decision that could affect the trust and confidence for the future. Judging by the fare structure there isn't much difference with Aer Lingus via DUB.
indeed
fares going via DUB with EI sees hardly no different but EI gives you free luggage, a hot meal and free seat selection plus you can clear US imm & customs at DUB too
my pals just booked with Primera BHX-EWR then got canx -- and now booked on EI to JFK via DUB and will earn a shed load of avios for same price and walk off the plane at JFK PDQ as a local
fares going via DUB with EI sees hardly no different but EI gives you free luggage, a hot meal and free seat selection plus you can clear US imm & customs at DUB too
my pals just booked with Primera BHX-EWR then got canx -- and now booked on EI to JFK via DUB and will earn a shed load of avios for same price and walk off the plane at JFK PDQ as a local
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So if I’m wrong on my theory, which I don’t think I am, regarding late delivery of aircraft that would mean 1x longhaul Aircraft with no allocation in the current timetable, it doesn’t make financial sense for this aircraft to sit as a standby aircraft just in case so are we to see a new route from Stansted or Paris bearing in mind not much time left to launch a new route if you want it full.
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If Primera were really serious about making the BHX flights work, couldn't they have just leased an a/c until their plane was ready? Even if it's a few months and causes a bit of confusion with the seat mapping, they're at least building a customer base, which will prove the be much more beneficial in the long run.
And how much would that cost?
Better to pull the service earlier, when fewer passengers are effected, rather than do what some other carriers do and kill services 2 weeks before departure date.
If Primera are to make a success of the new T/A venture then they aren't going to be splashing the cash unnecessarily, nor persevere with a route that looked them (and only they have the figures) as though it may not be an overnight success.
Low cost operators don't have the luxury of 2 years to develop a route, which is why you see so many routes come and go after a season, or sometimes even less.
Better to pull the service earlier, when fewer passengers are effected, rather than do what some other carriers do and kill services 2 weeks before departure date.
If Primera are to make a success of the new T/A venture then they aren't going to be splashing the cash unnecessarily, nor persevere with a route that looked them (and only they have the figures) as though it may not be an overnight success.
Low cost operators don't have the luxury of 2 years to develop a route, which is why you see so many routes come and go after a season, or sometimes even less.
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Are they proposing to use the A321NEO LR version? The one that’s just flown for the first time?
First A321LR successfully completes maiden flight
First A321LR successfully completes maiden flight
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They even had a link to the event on Facebook and or twitter saying they are looking forward to receiving them but I don’t see how they are going to get 6 In time for launch
This is wat I can find on placed orders
8x A321neo delivery 2018
2x A321neoLR launch customer delivery 2018
10x B739max delivery 2019.
This is wat I can find on placed orders
8x A321neo delivery 2018
2x A321neoLR launch customer delivery 2018
10x B739max delivery 2019.
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NEW ROUTE from Stansted.
We are happy to announce direct flights from London to Washington, D.C., starting August 2018. Discover the monumental capital of the US. Book your flight now.
We are happy to announce direct flights from London to Washington, D.C., starting August 2018. Discover the monumental capital of the US. Book your flight now.
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We’ve already seen a very positive response from passengers to Primera’s previous announcement of new services to New York, Boston and Toronto, and the addition of Washington will provide even more choice and connectivity to the east coast of the USA.
“We have made clear our ambition is to provide more services to the USA, and add routes to China and India, so this is another step towards that goal. We look forward to the launch of these exciting new services in the coming months.”
“We have made clear our ambition is to provide more services to the USA, and add routes to China and India, so this is another step towards that goal. We look forward to the launch of these exciting new services in the coming months.”
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I will pleasantly surprised if they're still operating into 2019 given they've bought the by now famous airliners.net Magic Route Planning Dartboard of Strategy.
They're going to need (more than) a fair amount of capital to get them into next summer because 2018 is all about costs and market share, and from what I can see, yields will be somewhat challenging.....
Launching a niche route BHX-BOS then almost immediately dropping it in favour of another niche route STN-IAD doesn't inspire confidence, certainly not in potential investors (!) I will happily and freely apologise and eat my words if this all works, I was d eventually delighted to be wrong about both FR and EZY but I would have huge concerns around booking with these guys.
On the B737MAX or A321? Or another type? Compare Ryanair, easyjet, Southwest, one manufacturer, one type, some sub types with flyglobespan, Monarch, Norwegian or Primera's plan.
They're going to need (more than) a fair amount of capital to get them into next summer because 2018 is all about costs and market share, and from what I can see, yields will be somewhat challenging.....
Launching a niche route BHX-BOS then almost immediately dropping it in favour of another niche route STN-IAD doesn't inspire confidence, certainly not in potential investors (!) I will happily and freely apologise and eat my words if this all works, I was d eventually delighted to be wrong about both FR and EZY but I would have huge concerns around booking with these guys.
“We have made clear our ambition is to provide more services to the USA, and add routes to China and India, so this is another step towards that goal. We look forward to the launch of these exciting new services in the coming months.”
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