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Just booked some flights where I could have equally happily gone to Manchester or Carlisle even if there was a small premium for CAX. It's a shame the connection opportunities aren't really working.
From RIX and MUC came up with prices £700+ and journey times 20h + each way.
From AMS was only £150, but the routing was AMS > MAN > overnight > BHD > CAX!
I started wondering if it could be worth adding an Amsterdam flight to get some connection opportunities, but then I saw the number and prices of AMS flights to MAN. This is where you realise what CAX is up against. Teesside can support flights to Amsterdam. Even Manston could!
From RIX and MUC came up with prices £700+ and journey times 20h + each way.
From AMS was only £150, but the routing was AMS > MAN > overnight > BHD > CAX!
I started wondering if it could be worth adding an Amsterdam flight to get some connection opportunities, but then I saw the number and prices of AMS flights to MAN. This is where you realise what CAX is up against. Teesside can support flights to Amsterdam. Even Manston could!
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I've actually pondered in my mind if CAX could support a Manston-style twice daily operation to AMS. It seems to me to be the logical move.
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Indeed!
KLM ditched Manston because of the uncertainty created after Ann Gloag snapped the place up for £1 amid much debate over the airport’s future. The airport announced a consultation process with staff - a week later KLM pulled the plug.
But BHD is a largely O&D market. There isn’t the global connections AMS has.
KLM ran Manston with two morning departures ex Manston and a morning and evening departure from AMS with the Fokker night-stopping in order to operate the early morning run to AMS.
Like I say, I’m not saying this will be a dead cert winner. More pondering if this is a more realistic way of creating a viable future for the airport?
KLM ditched Manston because of the uncertainty created after Ann Gloag snapped the place up for £1 amid much debate over the airport’s future. The airport announced a consultation process with staff - a week later KLM pulled the plug.
KLM ran Manston with two morning departures ex Manston and a morning and evening departure from AMS with the Fokker night-stopping in order to operate the early morning run to AMS.
Like I say, I’m not saying this will be a dead cert winner. More pondering if this is a more realistic way of creating a viable future for the airport?
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KLM / Manston: Not really, they only stopped flights a month after Manston first said they were going to close, and sounded unhappy about it.
I realise slots are a problem now, though. Nowadays nobody would start utilising slots at AMS by operating flights to Manston, Humberside, Teesside... or Carlisle!
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A single morning departure to AMS may be feasible in future. The Dublin route is proving relatively popular in particular at weekends.. an Amsterdam route may prove equally so for weekend breaks from Carlisle. Add in the possibility of onward connections to elsewhere in Europe and even the US, and you may have enough to sustain a single daily flight.
However, as others have mentioned previously, Amsterdam is currently near to capacity, so theres little chance of a new route to the regions for now.
However, as others have mentioned previously, Amsterdam is currently near to capacity, so theres little chance of a new route to the regions for now.
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The latest information I received (earlier this week in fact) is that Lelystad may never open to point to point commercial traffic. Something to do with the wider Dutch political agreement on limiting Global Warming gas emissions.