Carlisle-2

[Jamesair]

Document unavailable at this time......it says

[nighthawk117]

I have the document saved locally, unfortunately its too big to attach here, so Ive taken a screenshot of the relavent paragraph. It's application number 10/1116A - document Schedule A. I cant find it online though.



EDIT: I suppose I could just share it through dropbox.. here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/122uu0twwz...Plans.pdf?dl=0

[fjencl]

Have a look at 17 Aug 2017Decision notice ........subsection 15

https://publicaccess.carlisle.gov.uk...LI_DCAPR_70884

[DC3 Dave]

Also take a look at at the permitted movements in 14. They're not that far short of half way there with just the Loganair flights.

[Red Four]

Thanks fjencl, that seems to be the latest state of play. It would therefore appear to rule out A319/320 type operations then. I do wonder if a diversion of such a type would be permitted or not under the conditions.

I think if I was Stobart, I would now go back to the Council and clarify that such updated and more environmental types such as E190/195 and A220 are included, if necessary quoting the mission creep over the years at LCY.

[SWBKCB]

I think if I was Stobart, I would now go back to the Council and clarify that such updated and more environmental types such as E190/195 and A220 are included, if necessary quoting the mission creep over the years at LCY.

Unless there is a real liklihood of such operations, they need to let sleeping dogs lie and focus on the current operation. The level of opposition to such a change could be hugely distracting.

[Navpi]

I thought the larger aircraft was more about bringing punters into the Lakes

[Jamesair]

Reductions in frequency w.e.f. 16th September
Carlisle - Belfast from 5 to 4 weekly....Mon/Thurs/Fri/Sun
Carlisle - Dublin from 5 to 4 weekly.....Mon/Thurs/Fri/Sun

[Mickey Kaye]

Lack of trade or lack of ATC?

[CabinCrewe]

was always the plan to reduce for predicted seasonal variation I would imagine.

[SWBKCB]

was always the plan to reduce for predicted seasonal variation I would imagine.

So can anybody confirm if this was a planned change or where these flights previously on sale - don't remember any mention of it?

[Saabdriver1]

The Saturday flights were never on sale beyond mid September - it is a planned cut.

[STN Ramp Rat]

Not sure how, or even if, this will affect Carlisle

Eddie Stobart chief to leave as shares suspended

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49445495

[Sharklet_321]

I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?

[STN Ramp Rat]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?

you appear to be correct. https://www.londonstockexchange.com/.../14200363.html

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

I am not sure Eddie Stobart and Stobart Group are linked anymore?

They're not, though Eddie Stobart operate the big warehouse on site. I'm not even sure if Stobart Group have still have an interest in that or whether it's been leased out/sold.

[Jamesair]

As at March 2019 the Stobart Group owned 11.8% of Eddie Stobart, the company whose shares have been suspended so it has a very much minority interest.

[GrahamK]

Only route available on the CAA site for July is BHD, showing average pax of just under 20 per flight, or 58%

[EGPO]

Still being a brand new Airport, with poor links, axlack of signage .
And very early days .
It still could be a success, they sure made a good effort with Southend .
It just needs time

[SealinkBF]

Originally Posted by GrahamK

Only route available on the CAA site for July is BHD, showing average pax of just under 20 per flight, or 58%

No idea on load factors vs yield but for a new service that sounds not too bad.