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Old 26th Apr 2018, 00:12
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It really makes sense to me. If commercial services grow it will be almost a DIY project to enlarge the area dedicated to aviation. Office workers can be painlessly relocated elsewhere - presumably remaining on the airfield.

It's a modest enterprise in terms of pax numbers, but significant for all that.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 06:20
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave View Post
It really makes sense to me. If commercial services grow it will be almost a DIY project to enlarge the area dedicated to aviation. Office workers can be painlessly relocated elsewhere - presumably remaining on the airfield.

It's a modest enterprise in terms of pax numbers, but significant for all that.
There isn't anywhere on the airfield to move to, so it would need another building - though Stobart have already got a large logistics centre and headquarters building in open countryside on the back of the promise of improved connectivity...
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 11:35
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Unless the plans used to obtain planning permission are incorrect, I think you'll find it's the other way round.

Stobart Group to move infrastructure arm to Carlisle airport
The internal walls are visible . The terminal is on the right. The left four window sections over two stories are clearly offices .
It's clearly a terminal on the right as you can make out the high ceilings and new curved interior roof line.
As for the jet black external cladding it's a blot on the landscape like Stobart depot next door.
They are chasing larger carriers thatsxthevtjird time management guy has mentioned it .
It does look like EZY have been offered the same deal as at Southend .
I'd guess they'd need to use An A319.
As for the dip in the runway . With the rain round here in not fancy this airport unless it had full lighting ILS , fire services etal .
Still no sign. Of new approach lighting survey that MUST be installed ? .
but getting back to other operators an imminent annoucement is due .
Flybe maybe ?.
Either way good luck to them . The rest is shabby and neglected . Would have been better redoing it all and renovating the ' old Terminal ' still with all hoardings and destinations up ) into a nice Business Terminal .
It needs tondo better than it looks !.
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 19:44
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So next we await news of imminent announcement of another carrier for Carlisle Airport, interesting times ahead...............
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 20:08
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Amazing..tell me again where these hypothetical passengers are going to come from?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 21:18
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Amazing..tell me again where these hypothetical passengers are going to come from?
Well, a few days ago I was engaged in a debate in which I offered the view that Stansted (26 million pax 2017) was in the middle of nowhere.

Now it's absolute twaddle to start comparing the two, but do you not think that ONE OR TWO PERCENT of what that UK airport has achieved - even with a piddling amount of longhaul - is possible?
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 07:18
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In a word..No...
it will be a waste of Cumbrian money and the local economy would have been better served improving the road network to the SW and especially East.
Ironically this would also have been of much better economic value to Stobarts and their road haulage network.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 09:41
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Without getting into politics and long term plans .
But forget not they are trying to earn road and rail transport from oil.
By 2040 no new internal combustion engines will become sale ( unless some super cheap synthetic zero emmisions. Fuel is made - very unlikely in 20 years !.).
So the idea of pushing Stobart to increase polluting trucks onto roads , ever more controlled and taxed , in the long term is not attractive .
Further short sighted views of rail usage robbed the nation of lines ( Eg Borders route - shift slow frieght from WCML - speeding up long distance traffic).
Closer to Stobart ( ish) the Route from Galashwils to the ECML ironically both now official options ( or both!).
Not to mention similar schemes nation wide .
Air travel has its role to play in a this too!.
Near in mind the big airports full up , perhaps regional services disperse along with cargo to other airports .
We must start having sensible discussions about , UK transport use that will likely out live all of us here.

An example - Carlisle may work , there again it may not .
There is nothing to say that with the largest road and rail haulage firm it could not grown to be a very successful cargo operation.
All to often on these pages you look back at ideas that forum users fair, lynch people for suggesting .
Only for a few years hence for the ' never going to happen scenarios ' very much happening and being successful.

Just wait and see. I agree it's location is unique , it's facilities are not welcoming . However there it is.
And Stobart lest you forget they have usually made a success outvof whatever they touch.

Road , rail and Southend !.
Was that not a a failed no hope airport until they came in ?.
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 16:24
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EGPO....Can you give me the name of the “Off license” you use please?
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Old 5th May 2018, 17:38
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Well,less than a month to go to hope paint is dry,staff are trained and it’s all systems go!
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Old 5th May 2018, 18:31
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Originally Posted by EGPO View Post
The internal walls are visible . The terminal is on the right. The left four window sections over two stories are clearly offices .
It's clearly a terminal on the right as you can make out the high ceilings and new curved interior roof line.
As for the jet black external cladding it's a blot on the landscape like Stobart depot next door.
They are chasing larger carriers thatsxthevtjird time management guy has mentioned it .
It does look like EZY have been offered the same deal as at Southend .
I'd guess they'd need to use An A319.
As for the dip in the runway . With the rain round here in not fancy this airport unless it had full lighting ILS , fire services etal .
Still no sign. Of new approach lighting survey that MUST be installed ? .
but getting back to other operators an imminent annoucement is due .
Flybe maybe ?.
Either way good luck to them . The rest is shabby and neglected . Would have been better redoing it all and renovating the ' old Terminal ' still with all hoardings and destinations up ) into a nice Business Terminal .
It needs tondo better than it looks !.
When is the imminent announcement coming
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Old 6th May 2018, 05:10
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Well,less than a month to go to hope paint is dry,staff are trained and itís all systems go!
One month to go until flights take off from Carlisle Airport - News and Star
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Old 25th May 2018, 14:16
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Is a new ATC building part of the terminal construction?
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Old 25th May 2018, 14:22
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No - not in the plans
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Old 25th May 2018, 17:32
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Not long now!
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Old 25th May 2018, 17:41
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Not long now!
On another forum the booking engine is showing all flights into the foreseable future are fully booked between Carlisle and SEN. So either it is far more successful than first thought, or there is a booking problem, or it's not going to happen at all!

Any informed comments would be welcome!
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Old 25th May 2018, 17:59
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking View Post

On another forum the booking engine is showing all flights into the foreseable future are fully booked between Carlisle and SEN. So either it is far more successful than first thought, or there is a booking problem, or it's not going to happen at all!

Any informed comments would be welcome!
Is that for real? A couple of days ago there were plenty of seats for less than £50 every day except 4th June. Delighted if it's correct.l
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Old 25th May 2018, 18:21
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not sure what 'booking engine' is being used. All flights freely available on Loganair website on the advertised days. Some flights eg to DUB dont look that cheap which may or may not be a good sign.
Lets keep positive for Carlisle !
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Old 25th May 2018, 19:23
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Just looked on Loganairs site. All flights, any date selling for £290 return CAX-SEN. Says to me that they're about to pull it.
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Old 25th May 2018, 20:29
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Originally Posted by TartinTon View Post
Just looked on Loganairs site. All flights, any date selling for £290 return CAX-SEN. Says to me that they're about to pull it.
Or they are charging high fares like Eastern Airways do.
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