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Old 19th Mar 2018, 13:06
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all the moaners and negative thinkers said SEN was doomed and would never work, all I can say is have faith in your airport
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 14:42
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From acorns oak trees are grown
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 16:34
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Don’t worry about the negative comments the same was said when SEN started CAX will do very well I know from local excitement and enthusiastic locals as well as my local geographic knowledge of the area that CAX will do much better than people think the moaners know nothing they just think they talk the talk but they will be eating their words this time next year.
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Old 19th Mar 2018, 23:03
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All the best for CAX, hope it goes well. I'm sure that Loganair know what they are doing.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 10:32
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Maybe they could lease a Dornier 328 to reduce the flight times? Skyworks have just withdrawn their last airframe.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 10:43
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I thought they had publicly said they were trying to get rid of the remaining 328s, not get more of them.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 11:54
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They have. A shame though because a D328 would be preferable to a SF340.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 14:48
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Can you do any form of B.O.B service on Loganair 340. Sorry for question as not that familiar with the type.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 18:07
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They do complimentary only
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 21:14
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From a source in Carlisle. Will the operation get CAA approval for the airport,ATC and Controlled Airspace in time for the start up date?
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 21:51
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There is no need for controlled airspace and no chance of it happening by the start up date of mid summer as there has not been an application for any airspace

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Old 21st Mar 2018, 08:58
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I doubt that the CAA would look favourably on an application for controlled airspace with the anticipated level of activity at CAX.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 09:51
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Originally Posted by Expressflight View Post
I doubt that the CAA would look favourably on an application for controlled airspace with the anticipated level of activity at CAX.
I agree but will they need ATCOs? At the moment I believe they only have AFISOs.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 10:07
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They already have been advertising for air traffic controllers...etc
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 10:11
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The published service is ATC, not AFIS. By NOTAM it can be reduced to A/G. The service is suspended of course while the airfield is closed to fixed wing aircraft. The extended hours of operation to accommodate the scheduled flights will presumably give rise to higher staffing levels , hence the recruiting.

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Old 21st Mar 2018, 11:38
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If June is the opening time and services commencing then..how will the ATCOs be trained in time? Thought it took a while to get up to speed with licenses etc? I know DTV have been through a difficult time for the same reason and still have closures..they also have a lot more traffic to practice with?
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 11:55
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I'm guessing that CAX doesn't have radar so if it's just visual control then not much training involved, if I cared to put the clock back some 40 years I could do it myself but I'm having too much of a good time where I am!
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 12:02
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Control of IFR flights in a non-radar environment is procedural, not visual.
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Tagron View Post
Control of IFR flights in a non-radar environment is procedural, not visual.
In my day looking out of the windows of a visual control tower was exactly that, visual!
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 18:01
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
If June is the opening time and services commencing then..how will the ATCOs be trained in time? Thought it took a while to get up to speed with licenses etc? I know DTV have been through a difficult time for the same reason and still have closures..they also have a lot more traffic to practice with?
You seem to be suggesting that the ATCOs employed at Carlisle until the airfield was closed for the runway works are no longer employed there and that they will have to recruit new ones. Any evidence for that?
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