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A bit bizarre that BACF are closing down crew ops in Edinburgh with all the years of strong history and deep financial connections between the capitals of Scotland and England, yet at the same time - and now, of all times - they are launching a Belfast based product with crew set-up to fly to LCY!??
BHD will just be a night stopping aircraft with crews from LCY that stay over the previous night.
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As I understand it the financials of STN and regional ops with a 98 seater E190 are marginal at best, driven by lack of parking space at LCY and its high cost. With the enlarged apron at LCY and reduced demand this could change things.
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The couple of times I’ve been on it out of STN it’s been more or less full and more importantly full up front. Also they expanded the operation rather than scrap it which suggests it did OK. Although clearly that now comes with a massive caveat as things have changed.
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They already proposed to scrap that. Given they use to leave a few parked up at LCY anyway the new stands do mean that they can leave more there doing nothing if they wanted to.
I was once on a GLA-LCY inbound on a Sunday morning when Captain Speaking confidently announced he would have us on stand 15 minutes early at 1215......"no you won't" thought I and lo and behold there was an extended tour of the Southend area for at quarter of an hour
There's no more issue of a shortage of parking stands at LCY at the weekend than there is on any weeknight. In any event, the business demand pattern at LCY makes it more appropriate for aircraft to overnight at the outstations, particularly with the one hour time difference in mainland Europe.
The additional stands at the east end, which have come into service now after the shutdown, have anyway been compensated by the big temporary building put inconveniently on the apron, part of the building works.
The services out of Stansted are just to do something with the aircraft during the 24 hour LCY weekend shutdown. If LCY was a full 7 day operation those flights would be out of the base, as at other times.
The additional stands at the east end, which have come into service now after the shutdown, have anyway been compensated by the big temporary building put inconveniently on the apron, part of the building works.
The services out of Stansted are just to do something with the aircraft during the 24 hour LCY weekend shutdown. If LCY was a full 7 day operation those flights would be out of the base, as at other times.
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Reasons concerning STN weekend ops has always been understood.
Many opposing factors in play with a LCY full 7 day operation & good luck anybody guessing the outcome of that particular planning decision.
Many opposing factors in play with a LCY full 7 day operation & good luck anybody guessing the outcome of that particular planning decision.
I'm sure any planning decision by the "elected representatives" will be taken without any meaningful consultation of those who live around, or consideration of their views.
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25th October to 29th November
Monday to Friday
BA3270/BA3271/BA3272/BA3273/BA3274/BA3275/BA3276/BA3277
DUS-LCY-DUS-LCY-DUS-LCY-DUS-LCY-DUS
Saturday
BA3270/BA8497/BA8496/BA3273
DUS-LCY-AMS-LCY-DUS
Sunday
BA3276/BA3277
DUS-LCY-DUS
30th November
BA3270/BA3271/BA3272
DUS-LCY-DUS-LCY
First ex China Southern E190 registered G-LCAC arrived in NWI from WAW a week ago. According to Jethros fleet listing a further 5 ex China Southern E190’s leased aircraft are planned to arrive over the coming months. All aircraft will undergo EIS (entry into service) maintenance/checks prior to being handed over to BACF. Due dates shown below are the dates they are expected to be handed over to BACF.
G-LCAD - Due SEP20 (arr WAW 31MAY).
G-LCAE - Due 4Q20. (arr WAW 10JUL)
G-LCAF - Due 4Q20. (arr WAW 14AUG)
G-LCAG - Due 4Q20/1Q21
G-LCAH - Due 4Q20/1Q21
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If DUS is the last remaining E70 route, it would appear that it is also the most vulnerable in the network with relatively light loads (unless the comparatively few passengers are extraordinarily high yielding, which I doubt). I am somewhat surprised because DUS-LCY was the route Flybe picked to compete with BACF, which back then suggested to me a decent pax volume.
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If DUS is the last remaining E70 route, it would appear that it is also the most vulnerable in the network with relatively light loads (unless the comparatively few passengers are extraordinarily high yielding, which I doubt). I am somewhat surprised because DUS-LCY was the route Flybe picked to compete with BACF, which back then suggested to me a decent pax volume.
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I find it strange how even during a crisis like this, airlines cutting countless jobs, shedding every pound possible to save pennies, BACF of all airlines are getting new aircraft, 190LRs at that.
What’s the plan here? They won’t ship them all over straight to storage at NWI surely? There must be something in works, or am I totally missing something.
Any substance to the rumours of them moving the odd Embraer to operate out of LGW or is that all duff gen
What’s the plan here? They won’t ship them all over straight to storage at NWI surely? There must be something in works, or am I totally missing something.
Any substance to the rumours of them moving the odd Embraer to operate out of LGW or is that all duff gen
I find it strange how even during a crisis like this, airlines cutting countless jobs, shedding every pound possible to save pennies, BACF of all airlines are getting new aircraft, 190LRs at that.
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The same reason BA are taking delivery of new A32Xneo/350/787-10s, Virgin are taking A350s and TUI have a load of second hand 737-800s painted up ready to go. These aircraft were ordered and contracted months or years ago, just because COVID happened, you can’t just walk away from the deal without hefty penalties. Manufacturers and leasing companies have been accommodating with delivery delays and deferments given the circumstances, but still... its very difficult for an airline to walk away from their commitments at the last minute.
I’m sure every airline globally who had aircraft on order is stuck with some they’d now rather not have, Cityflyer is hardly unique.
I’m sure every airline globally who had aircraft on order is stuck with some they’d now rather not have, Cityflyer is hardly unique.