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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 18:47
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Apart from Saab and ATR what else could operate in a practical fashion from Dundee?
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 18:53
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Is Dundee's runway long enough for a J41 ?
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 21:27
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
Apart from Saab and ATR what else could operate in a practical fashion from Dundee?
Was mentioned on an old Dundee threadbthatban RJ100 would make it , as there had been consideration by some travel operator , to launch ' Med flights, with a Southbound fuel stop at for example Southampton .

I believe the E170, has a short field package , plus they all have a rapid climb rate , so at a push perhaps an E170 .

Pity Eastern sold theirs, A couple of Sun routes if doable from Dundee , would probably sell

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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 21:37
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Was mentioned on an old Dundee threadbthatban RJ100 would make it , as there had been consideration by some travel operator , to launch ' Med flights, with a Southbound fuel stop at for example Southampton .

I believe the E170, has a short field package , plus they all have a rapid climb rate , so at a push perhaps an E170 .

Pity Eastern sold theirs, A couple of Sun routes if doable from Dundee , would probably sell
A Palma flight operated in the mid 90’s on a 146 of Palmair/Flightline. Prices were pretty good for the time but it didn’t really sell that well. So with FR, EZY, LS etc offering much cheaper options from EDI etc then very unlikely there will be Med Routes.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 23:58
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Is Dundee's runway long enough for a J41 ?
I would assume so, DH8Ds have operated in over the last few years a long with AT42s.

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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 14:07
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Do we think that Eastern Airways could be a possible operator here this year then ………..
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 15:46
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Do we think that Eastern Airways could be a possible operator here this year then ………..
Don't think so, don't think eastern will be about much longer
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Old 8th May 2019, 16:05
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Airlines are being invited to bid for the right to run Dundee’s flight route to London.

A new 24-month contract has been put out to tender by Dundee City Council, seeking an operator for a twice-daily weekday flight as well as a single return service to and from the capital on a Sunday.

According to the contract, London is defined as “any airport within a 60-minute rail journey from/to a London Zone 1 station and designated as London according to IATA city code”.

It means flights to London from Dundee could potentially switch from Stansted to airports such as Luton or Southend, should the winning bidder chose to redirect the route.

Tenders for consideration need to be submitted by June 26.

The invitation for airlines to provide a twice-daily connection between Dundee and London comes only a month after the Tele revealed that air links between the two cities could be set for a shake-up, after it emerged funding for the current Stansted route is only to be available until later this year.

The local authority has pledged £145,000 to support the route as part of a public service obligation (PSO) package agreed between itself, the Department for Transport, Transport Scotland and route operator Loganair.

It also comes a week after Loganair announced it would not be introducing its new fleet of planes to the Dundee to Stansted route.

Alison Henderson, chief executive of Dundee and Angus Chamber of Commerce, said the invitation for the tenders was a sign that there was a commitment to the Dundee-London route.

Ms Henderson said: “This is an important route for tourism and business, linking Dundee not only with London but hopefully with an airport that connects to other airports outwith the UK.

“Ideally we would like to see flights from Dundee to an airport that provides a central onward hub elsewhere out of the UK.

“Air travel is hugely important both for business and tourism in Dundee.

“Dundee businesses are very keen to see regular flights to London and would welcome flights to an airport hub.

“We are hoping for the right flights, to the right locations at the right price to be put in place as quickly as possible.”

Dundee City Council and airport operators Highlands and Islands Airports Limited were approached for comment but had not responded at the time of going to press.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/f...ee-and-london/

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Old 8th May 2019, 17:07
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Chances of this going somewhere other than STN or SEN are remote, unless Virgin have some more LHR slots they need BE to fill. It offers Logan a chance to consolidate their network at SEN should it choose to do so. If Stobart go for it they can technically satisfy the connection criteria as they could offer through tickets to Groningen and Rennes!
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Just ask Lorraine.
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 10:22
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Tenders for consideration need to be submitted by June 26.

Will it be Loganair again.

Not long to wait until we find out i guess.........
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Old 20th Jun 2019, 11:59
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Not long to wait until we find out i guess.........
Will be months and after summer break
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 17:35
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LCY possibly back in the running for the PSO service?

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/f...d-from-dundee/

The article states the tender process ends on the 17th July. Does anyone know when the Outcome is expected to be announced and when the new PSO contract will start?

Also notice Sumburgh is being shown as a destination from DND on LM’s site however no flights available to book. Possibly a future new destination?
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 17:51
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The Loganair thread is getting rather Dundee focussed so I'm posting here in response to existing comments

I ask in good faith - what is the purpose of the Dundee-London PSO subsidy ? What are the objectives of Dundee council and/or the Scottish Govt in paying this money ?
I can think of several possible reasons for spending the public cash but I don't know which is more (or less) important. What do the residents of Dundee seek from the air route ?
Until we understand these objectives, any debate about possibly moving the route from STN to another London-area airport is somewhat arbitrary
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 08:19
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With the announcement of the PSO from LDY - SEN announced to Loganair, it must be due soon the PSO announcement from DND to London route.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 11:50
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With the announcement of the PSO from LDY - SEN announced to Loganair, it must be due soon the PSO announcement from DND to London route.
Given they are two distinct and separate country governments, I'm not sure there is an automatic chronology to follow one announcement immediately after the other?
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 12:08
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According to this, the tender process ended on July 17, 2019:

https://media.londoncityairport.com/...undee-service/

How long does it usually take before a decision? Given the lack of regional airlines nowadays, they will be luck if they have a choice and are not stuck, like for the Coll/Colonsay/Tiree-PSO, with just one bidder asking for more money than on offer....

As per the article, intensive lobbying, however, to move it to LCY. Not really sure how the stakeholders want to lure Loganair as the bidder other than with a truckload of cash. The airports, councils etc. can wish as much as they want, if the tender does not call for a LCY route, there is little they can do other than incentivizing a LCY service.
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Old 26th Aug 2019, 17:21
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In the additional documents section on the Public Contracts Scotland website, the ITT document notes that the evaluation was due to be completed on 21st August, notification of outcome on the 23rd August and contract award to be 2nd September. I suspect we'll know within the next two weeks.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if the service switched to Southend.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 12:40
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Better make a start on the runway extension then...
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 13:49
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In the additional documents section on the Public Contracts Scotland website, the ITT document notes that the evaluation was due to be completed on 21st August, notification of outcome on the 23rd August and contract award to be 2nd September. I suspect we'll know within the next two weeks.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if the service switched to Southend.
It would make sense for Loganair. And Southend is a much nicer airport overall. Mainly because it is smaller!

Might even see LM and BE bury the hatchet and cooperate again on connections.
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