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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 17:41
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What's the latest regarding the nine second-hand B737-800s which we understand were acquired to cover for the loss of the MAX? Is this additional capacity needed now? One ex-Norwegian a/c is all painted up and has been parked at Lasham for 4 months.
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 18:06
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Very much doubt any are needed this year, if the Max does arrive neither next. I think they are happy using the dreamliners to combine flights to the bucket and spade routes.
I'm sure exit any lease commitments would have been a top priority once it was clear there would be no normal S20 program
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 18:09
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I know Tui have said about using the Dreamliner on short haul routes from a few bases where they have reduced the frequency of flights until the Long Haul season starts again in November, Does anyone know at present are any Birmingham flights planned to be on the 787 this summer ?
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Some conflicting information here, hardly surprising given the timescale.
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Old 26th Jul 2020, 13:17
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So presumably based on their “Holiday Promise” people who do not wish to travel to the Canaries (even if TUI operate) can opt for a refund or credit ? As they state they won’t operate if guests have to quarantine in resort or on arrival back home ?
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Old 26th Jul 2020, 13:30
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So presumably based on their “Holiday Promise” people who do not wish to travel to the Canaries (even if TUI operate) can opt for a refund or credit ? As they state they won’t operate if guests have to quarantine in resort or on arrival back home ?
Thats what has been communicated

https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/t...ange-for-spain

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Old 26th Jul 2020, 14:05
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That’s not what that says (how I read it) - it says holidays to the islands will continue and those with holidays to mainland Spain up until 9 August will be proactively contacted and offered choices. It is pretty vague on the islands other than saying they will continue.
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Old 26th Jul 2020, 14:18
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That’s not what that says (how I read it) - it says holidays to the islands will continue and those with holidays to mainland Spain up until 9 August will be proactively contacted and offered choices. It is pretty vague on the islands other than saying they will continue.
I agree, it’s not particularly clear whether they’ll be offering refunds to those going to the islands who cannot or do not wish to quarantine on return. Based on their “promise”, I would expect that they will be included in the customers being contacted but that page seems to imply that all those who are contacted will be offered a refund/credit and not the option to travel. As always, it ought to be clearer, but I suppose they’re probably still figuring things out.

Perhaps they’ll offer a reduced programme to Spain from one or two bases for those wishing to travel? Numbers will be way down so I doubt the planned operation from various regional bases will be viable.
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Old 26th Jul 2020, 14:29
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I agree, it’s not particularly clear whether they’ll be offering refunds to those going to the islands who cannot or do not wish to quarantine on return. Based on their “promise”, I would expect that they will be included in the customers being contacted but that page seems to imply that all those who are contacted will be offered a refund/credit and not the option to travel. As always, it ought to be clearer, but I suppose they’re probably still figuring things out.

Perhaps they’ll offer a reduced programme to Spain from one or two bases for those wishing to travel? Numbers will be way down so I doubt the planned operation from various regional bases will be viable.
i agree am sure they are still figuring it out. If they don’t offer refund or credit to those travelling to the islands who will now have to quarantine, then their ‘promise’ isn’t really worth that much.....
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We will be proactively contacting all customers with bookings up to and including 9 August to either arrange a full refund or the option to rebook their holiday with a booking incentive.

They will offer a refund or credit to anyone not wishing to travel to the islands and quarantine on return. Which makes you wonder if there's some negotiations ongoing to reinstate the travel corridor to the Canaries and balearics.


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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
We will be proactively contacting all customers with bookings up to and including 9 August to either arrange a full refund or the option to rebook their holiday with a booking incentive.

They will offer a refund or credit to anyone not wishing to travel to the islands and quarantine on return. Which makes you wonder if there's some negotiations ongoing to reinstate the travel corridor to the Canaries and balearics.
If that’s true, then good news, but I still wouldn’t say that quote is particularly clear for the reasons mentioned above.

I’m sure there will be lots or negotiations going on.
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TUI now offering free amends on bookings made before the end of September for holidays up to the end of April 2021.

https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/i...-new-customers
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https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tu...081806223.html
EZY do this all the time but is this normal for TUI ?
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Normal practice across many industries. Property, vehicles, aircraft and other assets are often sold then leased back as a way of strengthening balance sheets, and giving the company working capital.
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I know but the uninformed press keep on banging on about it implying cash flow issues!
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don' think these aircraft have even been delivered yet. It is quite normal for TUI to not own any aircraft (was about 2 or 3 out of a fleet of 150), they order them then before delivery do as sale and lease back deal.
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Max8 repatriation

See TUI have received dispensation to recover G-TUMF from Tenerife South today, having spent 18 months grounded and has left c. 1040 this morning.
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MAX FLYING
G-TUMF which has been grounded at TFS for 18 months is currently on the way back to the UK at FL180 - possibly via Malaga.
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MAX FLYING
G-TUMF which has been grounded at TFS for 18 months is currently on the way back to the UK at FL180 - possibly via Malaga.
On descent into AGP as we speak.

Do we know if it's heading to MAN to join the other grounded TUI MAX's or elsewhere?
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