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Old 12th Feb 2020, 08:30
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Good news TUI clearly been hard at work behind the scenes early doors to ensure S20 expansion wasnt just words.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 17:54
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Originally Posted by P330
Good news. This answers a lot of the questions about near term lift. Presumably if the aircraft are genuine purchases or medium term leases, it covers them into 2021 and beyond too. (As opposed to summer ACMI deals).
All leases I believe
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 19:44
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All leases I believe
It wouldn't be sensible to do anything else, with all those Maxs on order.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:01
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Leases in what sense though? I’m sure pretty much their entire fleet is officially “leased” in that the aircraft are not owned by TOM, but rather leasing companies. The airline have acquired these aircraft and so they will presumably be fully painted etc (or at least I’d hope so). I’m guessing possibly leased for somewhere between 6mths-2yrs.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:10
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Originally Posted by ROC10
Leases in what sense though? I’m sure pretty much their entire fleet is officially “leased” in that the aircraft are not owned by TOM, but rather leasing companies. The airline have acquired these aircraft and so they will presumably be fully painted etc (or at least I’d hope so). I’m guessing possibly leased for somewhere between 6mths-2yrs.
i very much doubt they'll be painted. None of these aircraft have surfaced yet so doubt they'll have time to get them painted. White tails and decals would be my bet. Then if they are staying for medium term then they'll be painted over next winter.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:37
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
i very much doubt they'll be painted. None of these aircraft have surfaced yet so doubt they'll have time to get them painted. White tails and decals would be my bet. Then if they are staying for medium term then they'll be painted over next winter.
Yes, even just white with decals or perhaps basic blue like the old livery. TOM have never shown much interest in paining their leased aircraft even with basic decals, compared to Sunwing who usually always plaster the TUI frames with their decals. I would hope they won’t go for some sort of hybrid with Norwegian/Pegasus/FlyDubai liveries but we’ll see what happens.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 22:05
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None of these aircraft have surfaced yet.................
They are starting to
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by jethro15
You sure about the 2 ex swg?
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 22:52
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Originally Posted by Yeehaw22
You sure about the 2 ex swg?
Due to leave the fleet ? The MAX will likely be back by the time Sunwings season starts up again after this one.
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 04:42
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
Due to leave the fleet ? The MAX will likely be back by the time Sunwings season starts up again after this one.
Umm? what year are we talking Liam?
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 05:37
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Originally Posted by rog747
Umm? what year are we talking Liam?
Maybe 2022
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 18:51
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Remember TUI is not just UK operation, perhaps the balance of 738s being acquired will go to TUI Belguim, Deutschland, Netherlands & Nordic?
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 13:13
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Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned before but the TUI flights from Dublin are Tui Fly Nordic operating with BLX flight numbers instead of TUI Airways. Previously they wouldve been TOM flight numbers. Im wondering why this has changed?
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 14:21
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Originally Posted by AIRBUSNNS17
Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned before but the TUI flights from Dublin are Tui Fly Nordic operating with BLX flight numbers instead of TUI Airways. Previously they wouldve been TOM flight numbers. Im wondering why this has changed?
Brexit? UK isn't in the EU now so TUI UK might not be able to do EU to EU?
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 15:06
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
Brexit? UK isn't in the EU now so TUI UK might not be able to do EU to EU?
We may have left, but during the transition period the old rules still apply so there is no reason why these flights couldn't be operated by TUI UK.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 15:23
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The DUB flights are operated by a TUI UK aircraft (G-TAWK) but with Nordic flight numbers/callsigns. Initially I was confused as these flights were previously operated with TOM flight numbers but I came to the conclusion that it is most likely somewhat related to Brexit.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 20:44
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You're quite right, the DUB operation was modified recently to de-risk the flying programme in the event of a hard Brexit. DUB crew & flights now operate under the Nordic umberella.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 07:26
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Originally Posted by manchesterflyer
You're quite right, the DUB operation was modified recently to de-risk the flying programme in the event of a hard Brexit. DUB crew & flights now operate under the Nordic umberella.
Which essentially is a mirror image of TUI Airways operations, when compared to the rest of the airline group.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 15:05
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Wamos 747 positioning to MAN from MAD at the moment. Anyone know what it’s covering?
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 15:26
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It's covering the SID flight which was supposed to depart this morning.
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