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Don't forget though TUI UK are up two 789's on last summer with G-TUIN/O being delivered a couple of months ago.
This frees up some 788's to do some short haul flying, like the 767's have done for years. This will increase capacity at bases like MAN and LGW. This obviously won't account for all of the extra lift needed. But up gauging a route from say a 738 to a 788, frees a 738 to operate somewhere else whilst also increasing capacity on the original route.
AFAIK both 767's were due to be gone from the UK by now too, but YG will return to operate alongside YH at MAN all summer.
Will there be any spare capacity from other TUI airlines? Rather than having to outsource is there any flexibility within the group to get spare a/c across. I'm thinking the extra two 767's in Scandi for example.
This frees up some 788's to do some short haul flying, like the 767's have done for years. This will increase capacity at bases like MAN and LGW. This obviously won't account for all of the extra lift needed. But up gauging a route from say a 738 to a 788, frees a 738 to operate somewhere else whilst also increasing capacity on the original route.
AFAIK both 767's were due to be gone from the UK by now too, but YG will return to operate alongside YH at MAN all summer.
Will there be any spare capacity from other TUI airlines? Rather than having to outsource is there any flexibility within the group to get spare a/c across. I'm thinking the extra two 767's in Scandi for example.
According to a post on another forum (and possibly also on this forum a while back), TOM will need 56 738-sized aircraft for S20. Currently, they have 29x738 and it is likely that at least one (possibly more) will be withdrawn prior to S20. This means they will need circa 30 extra 738-sized aircraft to operate the S20 schedule. Normally SWG send over 4-5 aircraft. This winter TOM have sent 10 aircraft to SWG so possibly SWG will send over more. Even if they do send 10 aircraft, for example, around 20 extra frames will need to be sourced. Further, the post indicates six 757-sized aircraft will be required. Currently they have 9x757, however, it looks like at least two of these are likely to be gone by S20, so whilst they wouldn't be short on 757 capacity, they won't have spares to cover 738 flights.
Any further insight would, of course, be appreciated.
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Titan to replace 757-200's with 2 new A321LRs for S20 - Maybe TUI will book these? @195 seats compatible with 737-800/MAX but not a TUI 757
Titan’s fleet modernization will also include the arrival, in spring, of an Airbus A330, part of the transition to an all-Airbus operation.
In answer to Garry8g it seems none of us yet have a clue who TUI are getting to do ACMI work for S20 as yet...
Titan’s fleet modernization will also include the arrival, in spring, of an Airbus A330, part of the transition to an all-Airbus operation.
In answer to Garry8g it seems none of us yet have a clue who TUI are getting to do ACMI work for S20 as yet...
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Titan to replace 757-200's with 2 new A321LRs for S20 - Maybe TUI will book these? @195 seats compatible with 737-800/MAX but not a TUI 757
Titan’s fleet modernization will also include the arrival, in spring, of an Airbus A330, part of the transition to an all-Airbus operation.
Titan’s fleet modernization will also include the arrival, in spring, of an Airbus A330, part of the transition to an all-Airbus operation.
Also B757-200 GPOWH, is due to fly for Jet2 from Birmingham until at least the end of July 20.
There is also the potential for a further A321 from Titan flying out of Birmingham for Jet2.
TUI seem to be a bit slow off the mark.
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Heard that they will not be using Olympus as they have already secured another contract with Transavia. They use Titan on-and-off during winter and used two of their A320s (as well as the occasional 757/767) last summer so if those are available again they may use those. They will of course need much more though, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of AlbaStar being used.
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I’d agree but unless they acquire lots of aircraft or massively cut their programme (both unlikely I’d say), there’s simply no other way they can operate it. Unless you know anything we don’t?
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They were suppose to be getting 12-13 B737-800’s from Peagus. This was the last rumour anyway between flight deck and engineers that work there.
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I don’t dispute the fact that another Summer without the Max may require wet leases/subcharters, but if they were planning that to cover the expansion they wouldn’t have hired 100 pilots.
Aircraft leasing is a bit more complicated than just saying “we would like to keep it longer”. Maintenance programs are set out months in advance, the 757s would’ve been booked in for cargo conversion and the 737s that have left the fleet would’ve been allocated to new operators before the expansion was announced. The one owned 757, AW, would’ve needed expensive system upgrades to keep it in service, not least the installation of GPS.
There are a large number of 737NGs available around the world, granted some in varying states of disrepair, there would’ve been a plan in place prior to the announcement of expansion. TUI very rarely make their exact fleet plans known to the public or staff.
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Not good news for TUI, but now at least certainty that they will need to cover the whole Summer 20 period with leased in aircraft.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51200118
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51200118
Not good news for TUI, but now at least certainty that they will need to cover the whole Summer 20 period with leased in aircraft.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51200118
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51200118
No surprises, but I was scoffed at a few months ago on Pprune for even suggesting that the 737-8 and the latest -10, will not be back with TUI, or anyone in the UK until Summer 2021.
I was told ''shurely shum mishatke'' -- you do mean S20?
No I said, I do mean S21!
Any news on the 12 Pegasus 738's that was being put around?
The new Titan 321LR's are not due until Q3 2020.
The Nordic, German, Belgium and other TUI airlines will be looking for their own uplift too.
Enter Air flies for TUI Poland and theirs are grounded too.
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They might not be getting 12 now, after yesterdays terrible accident:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51384667
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51384667