TUI Airways

[ROC10]

G-TUIO arrived in BHX this morning.

[garry8g]

Originally Posted by ROC10

G-TUIO arrived in BHX this morning.

Now on first revenue flight to Bridgetown from Birmingham this morning.

[P330]

Does anyone know which aircraft are used on the Cape Verde flights?

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by P330

Does anyone know which aircraft are used on the Cape Verde flights?

767 from MAN, 757 from LGW/BHX, 737 from BRS.

[P330]

Thank you.

I wonder what will run this route once the 757/767s have gone? A long ride on a 737.....

[pabely]

Originally Posted by P330

Thank you.

I wonder what will run this route once the 757/767s have gone? A long ride on a 737.....

The Max of course! 😮

[P330]

Originally Posted by pabely

The Max of course! 😮

Gulp! You may have figured out we’re looking at going there, but right now would be nervous of the Max!

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by P330

Thank you.

I wonder what will run this route once the 757/767s have gone? A long ride on a 737.....

The types I mentioned are what they are currently using in this winter season and it’s actually quite unusual for them to be using the 767 on these routes but MAN only has 1 757 now. In the summer months they have been known to use the 787 from LGW and MAN.

For a passenger, the 737 is really no different from the 757, perhaps actually better due to more modern interiors. The 767s are also dated and in a high-density economy configuration so I’d doubt this would be very comfortable either. The 787 definitely looks like the best option for Cape Verde but there are the issues of operating it into BVC and trying to fill it from all of the appropriate bases, especially in winter.

[yeo valley]

Summer 2018 the 788 was used from BRS for the season.

[ROC10]

Anyone know why G-OOBA ferried from LGW to NCL and is now operating to Eindhoven? Based on the flight number I’m guessing some sort of charter but the departure was after midday which seems a tad late for the typical day trip charters.

[LiamNCL]

Originally Posted by ROC10

Anyone know why G-OOBA ferried from LGW to NCL and is now operating to Eindhoven? Based on the flight number I’m guessing some sort of charter but the departure was after midday which seems a tad late for the typical day trip charters.

TUI have operated NCL EIN in the past on a JAF 767 , they were troop charters back then for some sort of exercise so im guessing the same ?

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by LiamNCL

TUI have operated NCL EIN in the past on a JAF 767 , they were troop charters back then for some sort of exercise so im guessing the same ?

No idea, never heard of them doing that before but may well be the case. It operated straight back to MAN (presumably empty) afterwards.

[ROC10]

The HRG flights (or really the 757s) have been giving TUI a headache over the last couple of days.

Yesterday the LGW flight left 6 hours late. G-OOBN looks to have gone tech meaning G-OOBF had to be rushed out of DGX and straight onto the HRG.

The MAN flight on G-BYAY left just under an hour late but looks to have gone tech upon landing at HRG and is still on the ground there now. G-FDZG ferried down this morning on top of today’s HRG flights and operated yesterday’s inbound 25 hours late.

Then today’s HRG-MAN left over 3 hours late on G-OOBC despite arriving on time – possibly a switch to yesterday’s crew to allow them to get home, leaving today’s crew down there?

[valefan16]

Originally Posted by P330

Thank you.

I wonder what will run this route once the 757/767s have gone? A long ride on a 737.....

Imagine the MAX would be suited for this kind of route, when I was in Sal in 2015 our hotel was in line with the approach and saw a few 737's come in from Tuifly Germany, recall as was chuffed to see the Tootifruiti one! they've used the 787-8 on a week of the weekly flights down there too from LGW, I ended up on BYAY but was gutted I didnt realise prior to booking and take the 787-8 from LGW instead of the 757 from BHX.

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by valefan16

Imagine the MAX would be suited for this kind of route, when I was in Sal in 2015 our hotel was in line with the approach and saw a few 737's come in from Tuifly Germany, recall as was chuffed to see the Tootifruiti one! they've used the 787-8 on a week of the weekly flights down there too from LGW, I ended up on BYAY but was gutted I didnt realise prior to booking and take the 787-8 from LGW instead of the 757 from BHX.

As has been mentioned, the 738 can and does operate from the UK to Sal. Yes, the MAX is likely to largely replace the 757 on the route, along with 787 from the larger bases as it currently does in summer.

[OltonPete]

738/757

Originally Posted by ROC10

The HRG flights (or really the 757s) have been giving TUI a headache over the last couple of days.

Yesterday the LGW flight left 6 hours late. G-OOBN looks to have gone tech meaning G-OOBF had to be rushed out of DGX and straight onto the HRG.

The MAN flight on G-BYAY left just under an hour late but looks to have gone tech upon landing at HRG and is still on the ground there now. G-FDZG ferried down this morning on top of today’s HRG flights and operated yesterday’s inbound 25 hours late.

Then today’s HRG-MAN left over 3 hours late on G-OOBC despite arriving on time – possibly a switch to yesterday’s crew to allow them to get home, leaving today’s crew down there?

757 AY is currently heading home from its few days in the sun

Now to one that has apparently ended its TUI days - 738 G-FDZE operated Arrecife - BHX last night and has gone to Lasham for end of lease checks - Credit: Jethro's

I wonder if TUI tried to extend the lease.

Pete

[rog747]

It's also been a Sunwing a/c for much of its life....maybe back to Canada for the winter?

[Matt995]

TUI Summer 2020 Aircraft

Been trying to work out the aircraft, and bases for Summer 2020, and thanks to google flights, this is the current list for Saturdays in August :-

Aberdeen 1 x 737
Belfast 1 x 737
Birmingham 1 x 788
Birmingham 2 x 757
Birmingham 7 x 737
Bournemouth 2 x 737
Bristol 1 x 788
Bristol 1 x 757
Bristol 5 x 737
Cardiff 3 x 737
Doncaster 1 x 788
Doncaster 4 x 737
Dublin 2 x 737
East Midlands 3 x 737
Edinburgh 1 x 737
Exeter 1 x 737
Gatwick 3 x 789
Gatwick 4 x 788
Gatwick 2 x 757
Gatwick 4 x 737
Glasgow 3 x 737
Luton 1 x 737
Manchester 3 x 789
Manchester 2 x 767
Manchester 1 x 757
Manchester 12 x 737
Newcastle 1 x 788
Newcastle 4 x 737
Norwich 1 x 737
Stansted 2 x 737


the 788 at Newcastle is shared with Glasgow
the 788 at Doncaster, is shared with Manchester

and 1 of the Gatwick 788s, also operates from Manchester and Birmingham (1 day only)

This indicates 79 aircraft required, 6 x 789's, 8 x 788's. 2 x 767's, 6 x 757's, and 57 737's (a mixture of B738's, and Max's)

Currently TUI have 30 B738's, I guess they will lease in 5 Sunwing B738's, so that leaves at least 22 Max's required for Summer?

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by Matt995

Been trying to work out the aircraft, and bases for Summer 2020, and thanks to google flights, this is the current list for Saturdays in August :-

Aberdeen 1 x 737
Belfast 1 x 737
Birmingham 1 x 788
Birmingham 2 x 757
Birmingham 7 x 737
Bournemouth 2 x 737
Bristol 1 x 788
Bristol 1 x 757
Bristol 5 x 737
Cardiff 3 x 737
Doncaster 1 x 788
Doncaster 4 x 737
Dublin 2 x 737
East Midlands 3 x 737
Edinburgh 1 x 737
Exeter 1 x 737
Gatwick 3 x 789
Gatwick 4 x 788
Gatwick 2 x 757
Gatwick 4 x 737
Glasgow 3 x 737
Luton 1 x 737
Manchester 3 x 789
Manchester 2 x 767
Manchester 1 x 757
Manchester 12 x 737
Newcastle 1 x 788
Newcastle 4 x 737
Norwich 1 x 737
Stansted 2 x 737


the 788 at Newcastle is shared with Glasgow
the 788 at Doncaster, is shared with Manchester

and 1 of the Gatwick 788s, also operates from Manchester and Birmingham (1 day only)

This indicates 79 aircraft required, 6 x 789's, 8 x 788's. 2 x 767's, 6 x 757's, and 57 737's (a mixture of B738's, and Max's)

Currently TUI have 30 B738's, I guess they will lease in 5 Sunwing B738's, so that leaves at least 22 Max's required for Summer?

Looks pretty accurate for the most part. BOH and EXT each have one based 737 and share a second, I believe it’s at EXT four days and BOH three? Also, I don’t think it’s quite right to simply say that the likes of GLA and NCL share one 787. I believe there are some weeks where GLA has as many as 6 or 7 l/h flights but don’t think this is necessarily matched by NCL reducing to 1 or 2. But of course, the overall number is correct, they certainly have 8 x 788 and 6 x 789.

What strikes me most is the difference in the number of narrow-bodies between LGW (6) and MAN (13). Does the LGW 737 figure include the usual Norwegian-operated flights? If so that seems very low compared to MAN, even BHX has 9, although admittedly only one 787.

It does seem like a lot of extra capacity required. Assuming the MAX is back, they should be mostly there but deliveries will surely be backlogged? I suspect some of the 737 flights will possibly be switched to 757 (particularly at MAN where you have 12 vs 1). They currently have 9 757s. They may of course withdraw three before summer but they will possibly be trying to extend some leases. They also may take more from Sunwing if possible (so far this winter TOM have sent 7 x 737 over to SWG and possibly more still to go).

[Matt995]

No I haven't included the Norwegian aircraft at Gatwick, guessing its 2 B738s operating for TUI under Norwegian flight numbers?

I beleive we might see 7 Sunwing B738s this summer at Aberdeen, Norwich, Dublin, Belfast and Cardiff, whch means 20 Max's still required, dependant on how many B757s are kept, and if they lease in aircraft from other airlines?

Still a big gamble that the Max's will be flying from May 2020?