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It looks like GLA and NCL will lose all of their w-patterns from ABZ next summer as these will no longer be needed with the addition of a based a/c at both. These included PMI on Tue and Sat, DLM on Thu and CFU on Fri.
After a quick look at the website, these flights are still showing as outward w-patterns from ABZ. I can’t see where they are ‘w-ing’ to at the moment but it’s possible this hasn’t been decided/updated yet. Perhaps some growth at other bases will come from the likes of this as opposed to additional based a/c.
After a quick look at the website, these flights are still showing as outward w-patterns from ABZ. I can’t see where they are ‘w-ing’ to at the moment but it’s possible this hasn’t been decided/updated yet. Perhaps some growth at other bases will come from the likes of this as opposed to additional based a/c.
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I wonder how quickly TUI will return to SSH now that UK Gov have lifted ban? I remember the waves of TUI flights arriving from LGW, MAN, LUT, STN, BHX, & BRS. Always popular. With the extra UK boarder security working in HUG it was only time before SSH came up to speed.
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According to travel press they will definitely do it, but does not give estimated start date
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TUI flew 2x a week to SSH along with TCX from Newcastle aswell. It was a popular place i flew there on G-CPEU from NCL on TOM859 when it was still in First Choice colours and cream leather interior! Good times.
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So far I make the changes to be:
Short-haul a/c
BRS +2
GLA +1 (plus potential full time 787?)
NCL +1
DSA +1
BHX +1 (?)
BOH +0.4 approx
EXT +0.4 approx
LGW/MAN ??
Other bases ??
With regards to the BOH/EXT increases, I have not personally checked the website, but have read from others that each bases will see an additional a/c 3 days per week. Originally the plan seemed to be that BOH would take a LTN a/c from Fri-Sun. Provided this is still the case, perhaps EXT will take one of the extra BRS a/c from Mon-Wed? Another possibility is that one a/c is used exclusively for the BOH/EXT increases, moving between the two bases.
Please correct me or fill in the gaps in my knowledge by addressing the question marked areas above or any other points people have picked up.
Short-haul a/c
BRS +2
GLA +1 (plus potential full time 787?)
NCL +1
DSA +1
BHX +1 (?)
BOH +0.4 approx
EXT +0.4 approx
LGW/MAN ??
Other bases ??
With regards to the BOH/EXT increases, I have not personally checked the website, but have read from others that each bases will see an additional a/c 3 days per week. Originally the plan seemed to be that BOH would take a LTN a/c from Fri-Sun. Provided this is still the case, perhaps EXT will take one of the extra BRS a/c from Mon-Wed? Another possibility is that one a/c is used exclusively for the BOH/EXT increases, moving between the two bases.
Please correct me or fill in the gaps in my knowledge by addressing the question marked areas above or any other points people have picked up.
If TUI do not have the MAX back then any flying program (which was large) from UK to SSH next year then they do not have enough a/c to do this as yet.
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Skiathos
I've justed noticed that TUI have added flights to Antalya, Herakleion and Skiathos from EMA for summer 2020 , with various other increases on other routes too. Could this be an extra based frame? And sorry if it sounds like a silly question but can a 738 do EMA to JSI direct?
I've justed noticed that TUI have added flights to Antalya, Herakleion and Skiathos from EMA for summer 2020 , with various other increases on other routes too. Could this be an extra based frame? And sorry if it sounds like a silly question but can a 738 do EMA to JSI direct?
The 757's can get back without a stop but A321's and 738's need to drink on the way home and will stop at CFU KVA SKG Volos Pula DBV and PVZ amongst places to take on fuel.
They can do non-stop back to UK with a lower payload such as early season when flights are not full on the way home.
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A 738 can do JSI direct from anywhere in the UK - It is the return out of JSI that is MTOW limited due to short field length.
The 757's can get back without a stop but A321's and 738's need to drink on the way home and will stop at CFU KVA SKG Volos Pula DBV and PVZ amongst places to take on fuel.
They can do non-stop back to UK with a lower payload such as early season when flights are not full on the way home.
The 757's can get back without a stop but A321's and 738's need to drink on the way home and will stop at CFU KVA SKG Volos Pula DBV and PVZ amongst places to take on fuel.
They can do non-stop back to UK with a lower payload such as early season when flights are not full on the way home.
I think then the 738 must have the edge now on taking higher payloads out of JSI v the Airbus (or the 737 flights you mentioned were not full)
Also the Airbus has different performances whether it is CFM or IAE engines.
Enter Air 738's do stop on the way back to LGW but this maybe due to a split load at volos or lemnos (Sunvil Holidays own charters)
Also the Airbus has different performances whether it is CFM or IAE engines.
Enter Air 738's do stop on the way back to LGW but this maybe due to a split load at volos or lemnos (Sunvil Holidays own charters)
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Thanks for that guys. I'm not sure my self if a 738 could do JSI to EMA non stop. I wonder if a W pattern on a 757 my be possible? Maybe a BHX based frame?. Probably too early to tell .
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LGW, STN, BRS and BOH should all be fine on the 738. I’m assuming MAN and BHX will continue on the 757. I’m no expert but EMA may well be fine too? NCL is where I’m more unsure. I’m sure someone with more knowledge will enlighten us as to what’s (im)possible.
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After a quick check of the online TUI timetable, none of next year’s JSI flights are w-patterns. Timings also suggest return flights are non-stop.
LGW, STN, BRS and BOH should all be fine on the 738. I’m assuming MAN and BHX will continue on the 757. I’m no expert but EMA may well be fine too? NCL is where I’m more unsure. I’m sure someone with more knowledge will enlighten us as to what’s (im)possible.
As we know the MAX was destined to replace the 757 on TUI's routes such as this and JTR for instance, and the likes of Banjul, Cape Verde and Egypt (+ SSH makes a come back)
After reading the Lion Air MAX crash report yesterday I am not at all sure we will see the MAX back in time for Summer 2020.
Just my tuppence...
After reading the Lion Air MAX crash report yesterday I am not at all sure we will see the MAX back in time for Summer 2020.
Just my tuppence...
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It looks like the winter TFS-based aircraft is returning this year, and with the new season approaching I thought I'd try to see where it will be flying to/from.
From looking at the online timetables, this is what it appears to be operating:
Mon: CWL
Tue: DSA
Wed: ABZ
Thur: NWI
Fri: MAN
Sat:
Sun: ABZ
From looking at the online timetables, this is what it appears to be operating:
Mon: CWL
Tue: DSA
Wed: ABZ
Thur: NWI
Fri: MAN
Sat:
Sun: ABZ
After a quick check of the online TUI timetable, none of next year’s JSI flights are w-patterns. Timings also suggest return flights are non-stop.
LGW, STN, BRS and BOH should all be fine on the 738. I’m assuming MAN and BHX will continue on the 757. I’m no expert but EMA may well be fine too? NCL is where I’m more unsure. I’m sure someone with more knowledge will enlighten us as to what’s (im)possible.
1 x 757 went for freighter conversion this week.
the 2 x 767's remain in the fleet
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The 757 exit plan hasn’t been made public since the MAX grounding, however I think it would be fairly suicidal to be disposing of a fully crewed fleet of serviceable aircraft whilst the MAX still doesn’t have a return to service date (or the confidence of crew and passengers), and an expansion of 10-11 lines of flying is planned for next Summer.