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Old 17th Sep 2019, 21:50
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That’s never been the plan. At least 4 were always due to be around in S20. The 767s are staying for another 3-4 years at least.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 22:15
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I’ve flown on BA, BB, BD, BE, BF and BP this summer, all of which had mild cabin refurbs ahead of Summer 2019 with new leather seat covers. Surely TUI would not go to the expense if these aircraft were only to be around for a year?

BN and BG still with unrefurbished seats (although the latter should not have been around Summer 2020 anyway). Have not flown on AW, AY or BC this Summer (yet! Maybe this weekend!).
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 22:32
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Jethros had them all down for disposal W19/20 thats all im saying.
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Old 18th Sep 2019, 08:44
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-w19/

Seems the 767's, in some way or another are sticking around for winter (usually op for Tui Nordic in winter). Whether its one a/c rotating in from Scandi to operate these flights or whether more are due to be announced and both will have a full schedule of UK flying through the winter.
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 20:56
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only available to subscribers. Can you elaborate?
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 07:26
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G-OOBD MARRAKESH

Looks like another expensive time for TUI with G-OOBD still on the ground in Marrakesh. Outbound flight on 20 Sep left 3 hours late from Manchester with the return flight diverting back into Marrakesh where it remains. Pax eventually brought home late yesterday on B787 G-TUIA. Interestingly G-OOBD returned to Manchester on 19 Sep whilst flying to Thessaloniki. Certainly been a challenging summer for TUI and many others.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 08:23
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Looks like another expensive time for TUI with G-OOBD still on the ground in Marrakesh. Outbound flight on 20 Sep left 3 hours late from Manchester with the return flight diverting back into Marrakesh where it remains. Pax eventually brought home late yesterday on B787 G-TUIA. Interestingly G-OOBD returned to Manchester on 19 Sep whilst flying to Thessaloniki. Certainly been a challenging summer for TUI and many others.
In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.
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Old 22nd Sep 2019, 09:38
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In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.

Indeed!...Some of the posters on this thread are clearly drama queens (or soliciting for reactions!)

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Old 24th Sep 2019, 09:37
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How easy/difficult could It be for Tui to incorporate ex TCX Airbuses into fleet plus type pilots then wet leasing , I understand that the leases this summer were due to the MAX situation and hopefully will be back on line soon , but to pick up with supply/demand due to the sad demise of TCX....
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 09:56
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Originally Posted by pabloc
How easy/difficult could It be for Tui to incorporate ex TCX Airbuses into fleet plus type pilots then wet leasing , I understand that the leases this summer were due to the MAX situation and hopefully will be back on line soon , but to pick up with supply/demand due to the sad demise of TCX....
I wondered this too. With no definitive date for the Max’s to return to the sky. Plus TUI aren’t unfamiliar with the A320 family as they were part of the fleet post FCA merger. Could be a good opportunity and would create some much needed employment opportunities too.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 11:24
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Originally Posted by pamann


I wondered this too. With no definitive date for the Max’s to return to the sky. Plus TUI aren’t unfamiliar with the A320 family as they were part of the fleet post FCA merger. Could be a good opportunity and would create some much needed employment opportunities too.
It could well be the only real solution to what will be a problem come next summer.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 19:27
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Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 19:38
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Originally Posted by t-bag
Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.
Which airframes and crews exactly are you alluding to?
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Which airframes and crews exactly are you alluding to?
The suggestion of TUI taking some of TCX aircraft and crew.
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Maybe a left field suggestion for TUI but could they end up wet leasing Norwegian aircraft? Especially if Norwegian are cutting routes. Say 8 to 10 737s and 2 787 9s? They already use them at Gatwick so have an established relationship with them and it would fill the capacity gap with aircraft they are familiar with.
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Old 24th Sep 2019, 21:03
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Ref Tui and Norwegian

They already use them at Gatwick
I’ve heard from a reliable source that this has ended.
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Originally Posted by t-bag
Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.
Surely with what Tui have got in aircraft and crew,won’t be enough ,even if the MAX gets the go ahead...Demand for holidays/flights will remain the same but with the demise of TCX as a main player it’s the ideal opportunity to cover that demand.
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With demand far outweighing supply over the next year or 2 at least, prices will highly likely go up for summer holidays. It would be interesting to see if there is a shift to more winter holidays if prices are cheaper. TUI would be able to provide the capacity during the winter, with aircraft often only operating one flight per day at the smaller bases, and not sending some aircraft over the pond. Summer seasonal crews can be extended too.
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Old 25th Sep 2019, 00:36
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
Maybe a left field suggestion for TUI but could they end up wet leasing Norwegian aircraft? Especially if Norwegian are cutting routes. Say 8 to 10 737s and 2 787 9s? They already use them at Gatwick so have an established relationship with them and it would fill the capacity gap with aircraft they are familiar with.
Norwegian are cutting routes because they don’t have the aircraft due to the MAX and RR issues. So no

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