TUI Airways

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

What is the TUI fleet utilisation? It seems really low. I don't know how they can make money like this - yet they do. Meaning the poor customers are being ripped off.

At Cardiff each aircraft generally averages 2 departures a day sometimes 3 if they operate shorter routes like Reus and PMI.

[caaardiff]

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

What is the TUI fleet utilisation? It seems really low. I don't know how they can make money like this - yet they do. Meaning the poor customers are being ripped off.

TUI, TCX and to a point Jet2 are probably similar in their fleet utilisation as they are holiday Airlines flying to Spain, Greece, etc etc which are generally a minimum of 2 hour flights. Don't forget that it's TUI Holidays that makes the money and charters the aircraft from TUI Airways. Very few seats TUI and TCX sell are flight only customers.
You'll generally see 2 return flight per day, for example a 2 hour return flight to spain in the morning then a 3-5 hour return flight in the afternoon. On some days you may get 3 return flights to spain out of the aircraft. It all depends what TUI holidays want.
It's also still start of the season when certain destinations (Greece) haven't ramped up for the summer just yet. Usually by mid/end of May the program is in full swing.
So no, no-one is being ripped off and the fleet utilisation is generally seen around the network, with higher demand airports (LGW/MAN/BHX) probably starting their full program earlier.

[azz767]

Two more summer leases per Jethros and again both to be based at BHX

EC-MUB 738 from Alba Star
G-POWH 757 from Titan

Starting to see the full effects of the max issues now with (excluding standard sunwing leases) no less than 8 leases a/c.

2 Olympus A321
2 Norwegian International 738’s at LGW
1 french 738 at CWL mentioned above
1 Jet Time 738
And the two a/c mentioned in this post.

can you see anymore coming in? How many maxes were there supposed to be in service peak summer time?

I also wonder why BHX has taken the brunt of the hit on leased in aircraft

[sewushr]

I'm not sure the Jethros info is correct re the Birmingham leases.

The Jet Time B738 was only at BHX for 2 days. I suspect it, and the Alba Star which is at BHX now, were only drafted in on short-term leases due to the late start of the Olympus A321 leases (neither of the OLY A321s has flown for TUI yet).

So my guess is there aren't really that many aircraft on full summer season leases.

But standing by to be proved wrong! ;-)

[pabely]

Line Maintenance might be an issue as well, Brum has facilities if anything goes tech, usual TUI engineers will only know Boeing maybe?

[Matt995]

Originally Posted by azz767

can you see anymore coming in? How many maxes were there supposed to be in service peak summer time?

I also wonder why BHX has taken the brunt of the hit on leased in aircraft

TUI should have had 9 Maxs in service for the end of May, so thats 9 aircraft they have had to find. Possibly 2 of the 757s whos leased have expired, maybe be kept longer, possibly both having maintenance at present, an extra Sunwings 738 has been leased, 1 ASL 738, 3 Olympus A321s, and maybe the Titan 757s?

BHX is a 9 aircraft base for summer, plan was 1 788, 3 757s and 5 737s, 2 ot the 737s has been pinched to replace the Maxs at the other bases, so the new plan as to replace these with 2 Olympus A321s, one might start service on the 12th May, the 2nd would be needed from the 17th, the Alba Star/Jettime/Titan aircraft are therefore being sub chartered at present to replace the Olympus A321s! Complicated! But things might yet change........

[737James]

I am due to be flying out of BHX in July with Tui on a 738 as they are still selling the Extra Space seats e.g The ones that anyone can sit in ,am I to presume that my flights will be on Tui aircraft ?

I have also had a schedule change on the inbound flight back from PFO which is on a Sunday night which is a little strange as they have made it earlier and now right in the middle of the Sunday night peak where the airport struggles to cope with pax and ground services seemed more sense to arrive and depart two hours later

[Sharklet_321]

Anyone know if TUI are loading more inventory for BOH in summer 2020? So many gaps and it looks like two based aircraft for 3 days in the week.

[Matt995]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

Matt995 - you mentioned TUI leasing an ACL 738. Who are ACL ?

sorry should have been ASL of France, glad someone is paying attention!!

[matjr79]

MAN-RHO

Flying TOM2658/22Jun MAN-RHO.

Seat selected last week online and saw that i'm flying on a B763, happy with that!

Row 1-47 was available so we're on a Y328 version which must be either SE-RNC or G-OBYH? Have either got seat back TV?

Matjr79

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by matjr79

Flying TOM2658/22Jun MAN-RHO.

Seat selected last week online and saw that i'm flying on a B763, happy with that!

Row 1-47 was available so we're on a Y328 version which must be either SE-RNC or G-OBYH? Have either got seat back TV?

Matjr79

I'd imagine it’ll either be OBYG or OBYH surely? I believe these do have seat-back screens but not sure. If you’re lucky you could end up on a 787. FR24 has that flight number as a 788 next Saturday but of course TUI’s website will be more accurate.

[MattGarner]

Was supposed to fly on 767 to Corfu from Manchester but has apparently gone tech in Dubai. Anyone know what plane it should have been in terms of reg?

Currently on the way to Cardiff to fly from there. Other groups of people have gone to East Midlands as well.

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by MattGarner

Was supposed to fly on 767 to Corfu from Manchester but has apparently gone tech in Dubai. Anyone know what plane it should have been in terms of reg?

Currently on the way to Cardiff to fly from there. Other groups of people have gone to East Midlands as well.

For TUI it never rains but it pours, as my Ma used to say.

[azz767]

Well as far as I’m aware the two UK reg’d 767’s are still out of service in the Far East I don’t know when they’re due back either.

The two swedish 767’s have been doing a lot of flying from MAN over the last couple of weeks so I’d assume it’s one of those

[MattGarner]

Originally Posted by azz767

Well as far as I’m aware the two UK reg’d 767’s are still out of service in the Far East I don’t know when they’re due back either.

The two swedish 767’s have been doing a lot of flying from MAN over the last couple of weeks so I’d assume it’s one of those

I did check those but they seem to be in Europe? Dubai was being thrown about so not sure how true that is.

Unless they expected the G- 767s back in service at this point.

[matjr79]

Saw a post on on facebook on the 09Apr about the 2 x UK 767s

"Two Boeing 767-300ERs of TUI flew a long way from Stockholm to Taipei and arrived this morning. Both of them will have maintenance assigned to EGAT"

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by MattGarner

Was supposed to fly on 767 to Corfu from Manchester but has apparently gone tech in Dubai. Anyone know what plane it should have been in terms of reg?

Currently on the way to Cardiff to fly from there. Other groups of people have gone to East Midlands as well.

It will be G-OBYG as a quick FR24 search shows this was heading back from Taipei and stopped in Dubai.

TUI are using a Privelige Style 763 and Wamos Air A332 from MAN to LPA and TFS today.

[matjr79]

At least the Privelige 763 looks like the old Britannia livery

[shamrock7seal]

What is TUI's utilisation for the 737 fleet? Forget MAX issues...

Seems that in the winter there are whole days that go by where aircraft are not deployed and the summer season is sometimes not as tight as it could be from observation. Surely a company like this should be putting utilisation at the top in terms of priority?

[737James]

I notice that TUI have upped the hand baggage limit on European flights so you can now take 10KG of carry on baggage which is a good thing for customers just hope that they have the space for all the bags if everyone takes their full limit