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Old 15th Sep 2020, 13:49
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Originally Posted by 116d View Post
On descent into AGP as we speak.

Do we know if it's heading to MAN to join the other grounded TUI MAX's or elsewhere?
G-TUMF is coming to BHX
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Old 17th Sep 2020, 09:16
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I came home from a Tui holiday on Monday and overall was very happy with everything, I was so pleased that I got the chance to have one last flight on the 757 to feel that pure power that the aircraft has especially out of DLM where aircraft have to clear the mountains quite soon after take off and it we soon got up to initial cruise of FL380

One question I have are Tui using 757 flightdeck crew from other bases at BHX this year as I am sure the captain Sunil said that he was Manchester based ? I just wondered as there is only one 757 based at BHX this year whether it was being crewed by MAN and LGW crew doing a 3-4 day rota block of flights
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Old 9th Oct 2020, 11:19
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Anyone know what a/c TUI are currently using out of MAN? We're on TOM2794 to KGS on 25 Oct and wondered what equipment would be used.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 11:38
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With EASA announcement today hopefully TUI will get their Max’s in the air again this year. wonder if ‘Max’ will be quietly dropped...
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 11:43
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
With EASA announcement today hopefully TUI will get their Max’s in the air again this year. wonder if ‘Max’ will be quietly dropped...
Painting Airbus on the side would help passenger perceptions.
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Old 16th Oct 2020, 12:13
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A year ago TUI UK bosses were publicly mulling over if to drop the MAX fleet name...They have removed all ref to TUI UK as operating the MAX a/c.
As yet the UK Company has not made any further announcements.
A few months back partner TUI Fly will in the future identify its Boeing 737 MAX aircraft as “737-8” in flight plans and operations.
Ryanair had already dropped the word MAX and has used the 737-8 200 moniker for their unique MAX type fleet it has on order.

Back in the summer 5 new TUI MAX a/c were sold and will be leased back to the airline to raise $226m for TUI.
TUI Group currently have 15 grounded MAX aircraft and 8 more built awaiting delivery.
Also now TUI have put back the timescale on anymore Max deliveries reducing the intake over the next few years, under a broad agreement with Boeing to compensate for the type’s grounding since March 2019.

The UK withdraws completely from the EASA system on 1 January 2021, meaning that the CAA will need to fulfil regulatory functions without having EASAas a regulatory body. The respective positions outlined in the EU and UK negotiating mandates make clear that the UK will no longer participate in EASA systems after the end of the transition period on 31 December 2020.

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Old 24th Oct 2020, 22:08
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Noticed recently that lots of the fleet, particularly the 787s are starting to look really faded now, probably not helped by sitting in the same place for prolonged periods of time. The patches from where they covered the Thomson titles up looked bad enough but are now even worse thanks to the fading blue. I know it's definitely not a priority right now but does anyone know when we can expect to see the 787s start to get repainted and why they seem to be most affected? Something to do with being carbon fibre maybe?
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 00:24
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Originally Posted by CWL757 View Post
Noticed recently that lots of the fleet, particularly the 787s are starting to look really faded now, probably not helped by sitting in the same place for prolonged periods of time. The patches from where they covered the Thomson titles up looked bad enough but are now even worse thanks to the fading blue. I know it's definitely not a priority right now but does anyone know when we can expect to see the 787s start to get repainted and why they seem to be most affected? Something to do with being carbon fibre maybe?
The 787s have looked pretty awful ever since they patched up the “Thomson” titles a few years back, whereas the 737/757 don’t look anywhere near as bad - the patch is often visible but only vaguely. Clearly wasn’t a priority then though and it certainly won’t be now. They have let some of their aircraft get in a pretty poor state in terms or livery in the past so it doesn’t particularly surprise me. The fact that the 737s that went to Sunwing last winter are still wearing hybrid titles tells you all you need to know in terms of how little a priority this is likely to be.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 18:50
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i can see why TUI are in decline with such a poor website compared to Jet2 which are their main competitors. They are advertising holidays for next weekend in Tenerife for hotels which have been closed for months. I know as I walked up to one of the Hotels this morning, and there was no sign of activity. As 90% of their business is holiday related it reflects badly on the in-house airline.
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 20:34
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Not wanting to defend TUI but they run a Worlďwide business not just UK. Have about 400 hotels if their own and close links to about a dozen large hotel groups.
They have alot of brands, some compete with Jet2 Holidays, some do not.
If this crisis continues for for another 3+ years who do you think will survive? Dart Group sold part if the Group Assets in the summer, I bet the German Gov will back TUI Group all day, will the UK Government with Jet2? Things are that bad for the Industry to be thinking of specific examples next week!
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Old 25th Oct 2020, 22:36
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PabeIy I assume you are talking about the sale of Fowler Welch Coolchain. If so I think you will find that the sale was started pre Covid last October.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 01:15
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PabeIy I assume you are talking about the sale of Fowler Welch Coolchain. If so I think you will find that the sale was started pre Covid last October.
I know it was not a knee jerk reaction to Covid, it was long published in Company Accounts the intention to sell this asset, my thoughts were more about funding further expansion but in the end it has helped cash flow but will not be available again to fund expansion.
Anyhow, back to TUI.........
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 01:30
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Originally Posted by Playamar2 View Post
i can see why TUI are in decline with such a poor website compared to Jet2 which are their main competitors. They are advertising holidays for next weekend in Tenerife for hotels which have been closed for months. I know as I walked up to one of the Hotels this morning, and there was no sign of activity. As 90% of their business is holiday related it reflects badly on the in-house airline.
Did it not occur to you that these hotels have been closed because there’s been near enough no British tourists in Tenerife, and now that British tourists are “allowed” again, they will be reopened?

I must say, the distinct lack of intelligence and common sense on this forum recently is alarming.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 08:45
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Vokes55 - This particular Hotel was advertised for holidays by TUI in July when the Canaries were open for business, yet in remained closed. As for it opening before this weekend, their is no chance. The point being that they are misleading people into booking for a Hotel that is closed. The hotels own website says they won't open until 7th December at the earliest. So Vokes55 do your homework before criticising others.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Playamar2 View Post
Vokes55 - This particular Hotel was advertised for holidays by TUI in July when the Canaries were open for business, yet in remained closed. As for it opening before this weekend, their is no chance. The point being that they are misleading people into booking for a Hotel that is closed. The hotels own website says they won't open until 7th December at the earliest. So Vokes55 do your homework before criticising others.
Unless you are booked in to the hotel, what concern is it of yours? Let TUI do what they want and pick up the pieces if it goes wrong. If you are a TUI member of staff with a vested interest in what their website is doing then feedback internally.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 10:24
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
The 787s have looked pretty awful ever since they patched up the “Thomson” titles a few years back, whereas the 737/757 don’t look anywhere near as bad - the patch is often visible but only vaguely. Clearly wasn’t a priority then though and it certainly won’t be now. They have let some of their aircraft get in a pretty poor state in terms or livery in the past so it doesn’t particularly surprise me. The fact that the 737s that went to Sunwing last winter are still wearing hybrid titles tells you all you need to know in terms of how little a priority this is likely to be.
Its not just the exterior of the aircraft that need a bit of work them, I have been on 6 Tui aircraft this year while going on holiday and 5 out the 6 aircrafts needed some work on them with wall panels and floor vents being cracked, armrests broken and carpets having seen better days. One the be fair was a 757 so i can accept that aircraft should have left the fleet but the 737s there was no real excuse I do wonder if some of the earlier ones are coming to the end of their lease though so thats why they have left them as they are.

Although with the reduced schedule there is no reason to do some of the cosmetic jobs for example in September I went BHX-DLM on G-FDZX at 6am but due to aircraft rotation it had been on the ground at BHX for 55 hours in between flights on a remote stand so why the armrests were not fixed, Even the cabin crew warned us about when we sat down
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 11:41
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While that a/c was sat on the ground for 55 hours, it was costing TUI money and not earning anything.

While from a practical point of view that's an opportunity for minor fixes, from a financial point of view I would imagine that they aren't spending anything which isn't absolutely necessary.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 22:06
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
Did it not occur to you that these hotels have been closed because there’s been near enough no British tourists in Tenerife, and now that British tourists are “allowed” again, they will be reopened?

I must say, the distinct lack of intelligence and common sense on this forum recently is alarming.
I mean this post pretty much contradicts it's self from the outset. You are saying that the distinct lack of intelligence and common sense on this forum recently is alarming, whilst saying that hotels will now be reopened again, some of whom rely solely on the British. I think some Hoteliers, knowing what the government have been like, will remain on the side of caution and would rather remain closed.

Some hoteliers have made the decision, the hard & difficult decision to close until next year in time for Summer 21 season. Others are not open to their full capacity due to staffing issues or not able to social distance with their maximum capacity the list goes on and on. Another point to make here is that the UK government gave very much, what the industry would say, very late notice. You can not just open a Hotel at a click of a finger like you might like to think. So suddenly selling holidays to Canary Islands isn't just about "quick sell 40 hotel rooms in that hotel". But you keep believing that.

Maybe do some research on the tour operator business. You may open up your very narrow minded opinion.
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Old 26th Oct 2020, 22:21
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Not everyone currently coming to Tenerife is destined for Hotels, to my knowledge many are 'swallows' returning to their properties for the winter.
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Old 27th Oct 2020, 00:00
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Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 View Post
I mean this post pretty much contradicts it's self from the outset. You are saying that the distinct lack of intelligence and common sense on this forum recently is alarming, whilst saying that hotels will now be reopened again, some of whom rely solely on the British. I think some Hoteliers, knowing what the government have been like, will remain on the side of caution and would rather remain closed.

Some hoteliers have made the decision, the hard & difficult decision to close until next year in time for Summer 21 season. Others are not open to their full capacity due to staffing issues or not able to social distance with their maximum capacity the list goes on and on. Another point to make here is that the UK government gave very much, what the industry would say, very late notice. You can not just open a Hotel at a click of a finger like you might like to think. So suddenly selling holidays to Canary Islands isn't just about "quick sell 40 hotel rooms in that hotel". But you keep believing that.

Maybe do some research on the tour operator business. You may open up your very narrow minded opinion.
Wow, quite the tangent. Deep breaths! But thanks for proving that my statement on lack of intelligence and common sense is correct - the fact that your attempt at a patronising argument is based on “I think” says it all.

Firstly, not many “hoteliers” in the Canary Islands can afford to “remain on the side of caution”. In case you hadn’t noticed, they’ve had next to no income for the past seven months. Independent hoteliers may remain closed for now, but those contracted by tour operators, who went through the whole process of becoming COVID compliant back in June/July, will be reopening. And your point about not being able to open a hotel at the click of a finger is correct, hence why the poster probably saw little activity when he walked past on Saturday, with the first Tenerife holidays not starting until tomorrow or Friday.

Your second (and third) paragraph is just a few words thrown together. The point here is that TUI aren’t going to sell a holiday for next weekend to a hotel that isn’t open. If the hotel is on sale and the destination is open, the hotel is going to be open.
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