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Old 28th Jun 2020, 20:46
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
Pritti Patel has muddied the waters even more today.

She has contradicted others in saying lifting travel restrictions and the traffic light system remain works in progress and are far from imminent and or a given .

Foreign office and diplomatic missions still in negotiations with various EU/EEA/Turkey states for those flagged headline safe corridors !

FCO advice remains very much in force so no viable insurances are available .

Think you and others need to revisit this in another 7-10 days at the earliest to be honest .
You're new here aren't you? When has a politician ever confirmed or denied an imminent policy change in an interview before the official announcement?
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 20:55
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If any one is booking a TUI holiday or flight for July and think that the flights are guaranteed, then think again.
TUI are gambling that they will be able to start, as it is easier to cancel flights and holidays than getting organised and ready to start.
It takes weeks to get setup, so they are taking bookings in case they get the go ahead, money in the bank.
That is why only a few flights at the start, before they start ramping up.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 20:55
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Hardly new been posting for more than ten years through not necessarily regularly !


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Old 28th Jun 2020, 21:01
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Originally Posted by Rutan16 View Post
Pritti Patel has muddied the waters even more today.

She has contradicted others in saying lifting travel restrictions and the traffic light system remain works in progress and are far from imminent and or a given .

Foreign office and diplomatic missions still in negotiations with various EU/EEA/Turkey states for those flagged headline safe corridors !

FCO advice remains very much in force so no viable insurances are available .

Think you and others need to revisit this in another 7-10 days at the earliest to be honest .
Given the fact she's actually the most incapable minister in the cabinet i'd say i wont take her word as gospel. I also believe that boarders etc should be controlled, especially in coronavirus time, by the foreign sectary and not the home secretary but that's a different discussion in a different thread all together. If she doesn't review the current guidelines the aviation industry in the UK will continue to free fall. This government needs to act on this and be openly honest.
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Old 28th Jun 2020, 21:27
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She stated some hard negotiations were still ongoing, bearing in mind some wonít open July 15th (Malta and Cyprus) and Greece are still debating then some will still need securing, add in Portugal and Turkey who are borderline cases.

We will know more this week, but if quarantine changes as reported, you donít need an air bridge for Spain which is open for us, or Italy and Croatia...
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 09:59
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AKA Priti Dim but to be fair the standard to be in this cabinet has never been lower, ever probably anywhere in Western Europe too. Incompetent doesn't even begin to describe all of them.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 11:53
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Hardly surprising, since the criteria for selection was devotion to Project Boris and the true Church of Brexit. Hence there's more competence on the back benches.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 14:54
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Hardly surprising, since the criteria for selection was devotion to Project Boris and the true Church of Brexit. Hence there's more competence on the back benches.
Yawn.......getting really boring now - can we have some useful input regarding TUI?
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 22:23
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Hardly surprising, since the criteria for selection was devotion to Project Boris and the true Church of Brexit. Hence there's more competence on the back benches.
Yet another pointless political post about Brexit and Government bashing by someone that has yet to get over the results of the last election.

Back to TUI, I watched an interview with a travel agent who didn’t believe there is a surge in bookings as he is still cancelling more holidays than he was booking.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 23:38
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes View Post
Yet another pointless political post about Brexit and Government bashing by someone that has yet to get over the results of the last election.

Back to TUI, I watched an interview with a travel agent who didnít believe there is a surge in bookings as he is still cancelling more holidays than he was booking.
TUI in Germany cut 50% of their workforce Bojo or no Bojo. Will TUI do the same in the UK?
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 08:40
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"Surge in bookings" and "pent up demand" are fantastic marketing expressions because they are not quantifiable. Working on the FOMO mindset to try and get things moving again.
The more specific statements such as "an 80% increase in booking since last week" sound impressive but if you only sold 100 holidays last week then an 80% increase only means 180 this week.

Sales teams are understandably keen to get the market moving but I have a concern around mixed messages. On the one side stating bookings are seeing a surge in demand whilst on the other side stating the industry is in dire straits.
The latter is true and I would not want to see efforts to get much needed industry support undermined through well meant but perhaps misplaced sales tactics.
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Old 30th Jun 2020, 20:45
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Which Aircraft

Hi, Iím new to all this. Just wondered if anyone could help. I am booked to fly BY2418 on 03/09/20 and BY2419 on 11/09/20. I initially had extra legroom seats booked on a B757-200 which is now showing a seat map for a B737-MAX 8, but when I rang them they said the flight will be operated by a B767-300, but were not sure why the seat map is wrong. Does anyone know which of these aircraft is likely to operate the flight? Thanks
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 16:52
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Originally Posted by Chris Ralfs View Post
Hi, I’m new to all this. Just wondered if anyone could help. I am booked to fly BY2418 on 03/09/20 and BY2419 on 11/09/20. I initially had extra legroom seats booked on a B757-200 which is now showing a seat map for a B737-MAX 8, but when I rang them they said the flight will be operated by a B767-300, but were not sure why the seat map is wrong. Does anyone know which of these aircraft is likely to operate the flight? Thanks
I doubt anyone on here will be able to answer that ! From what you say are TUI really sure what they will be operating just yet, could change again ? Doubt it would be a 737 Max are'nt they still undergoing new certification test flying at present ?
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 16:55
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Originally Posted by Officerzero View Post
TUI in Germany cut 50% of their workforce Bojo or no Bojo. Will TUI do the same in the UK?
My local shopping centre for some reason had two TUI shops (never understood why) ! Looked today and one of them has shut down and everything removed so probably yes they will need to cut the UK workforce wherever possible and looks like they already are.
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Old 1st Jul 2020, 22:05
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
My local shopping centre for some reason had two TUI shops (never understood why) ! Looked today and one of them has shut down and everything removed so probably yes they will need to cut the UK workforce wherever possible and looks like they already are.
I think we might have the same local shopping centre (based on your location). If so, the second store has been closed for a while now (pre-Covid anyway). But I donít doubt there will be further cuts.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 09:21
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We also had 2x shops, not within the same centre but only about 3-4 mins walk apart. Again one closed very recently but before Covid so was definitely already shrinking.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 10:03
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Any sign of the shops reopening?

Hoping Cape Verde flights are back up and running in a few weeks and the country is on the governmentís corridor list...
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 10:09
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Cape Verde is seeing about 6 times the number of cases per day compared to the UK, when measured on a cases per 100,000 population basis over the last 10 days

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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 10:48
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Thanks David.

I wonít get excited yet then.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 13:26
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
I think we might have the same local shopping centre (based on your location). If so, the second store has been closed for a while now (pre-Covid anyway). But I don’t doubt there will be further cuts.
Livingston... the shop yesterday had newspaper over the windows, today they had been removed and the shop was completely empty ! Looking forward to when they re-open the shop, as most in Scotland are in shopping centres I guess that could be Monday 13th July but I won't hold my breath. Still waiting for my refund voucher and have so many questions when they do regarding total lack of contact.
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