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Old 23rd May 2020, 10:44
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I'm waiting until the Second Wave has passed through. Then, if there's anywhere left to travel to and to travel with, we'll check it out.
Meanwhile, I'LL be the one holding the money.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 11:37
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Who knows how the travel industry will look next year but I am sure TUI will be there. With regards to booking next year, the question to ask is "is it a good deal?" If it is what have you got to lose? Your money is ATOL protected. If you are flexible perhaps it might be worth waiting to see if prices fall. However, if there is a strong recovery in leisure travel with people looking to take the holiday they missed in 2020, will prices be high? Who knows? If only we had a crystal ball!
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Old 23rd May 2020, 14:39
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Still you can make 20% interest on your ATOL protected money (assuming you plan another TUI holiday) so if you can afford not to have the cash why not ? Bank interest rates are effectively 0.
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Old 27th May 2020, 10:55
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Difficult to have trust in an airline that still shows your booking as going but you have to quarantine for 2 weeks at both ends.
The hotel is also showing unbookable till a later date.
How many customers have decided to cancel completely rather than rebook ?

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Old 27th May 2020, 11:36
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Originally Posted by stormin norman View Post
Difficult to have trust in an airline that still shows your booking as going but you have to quarantine for 2 weeks at both ends.
The hotel is also showing unbookable till a later date.
How many customers have decided to cancel completely rather than rebook ?
My TUI holiday is still showing as going ahead to Greece in late June ! The Greek government are stating they do not want any UK tourists until further notice, they are not accepting any international flights until 1st July! The FCO are still advising against all non essential travel. So three reasons we cannot go, but TUI still have not cancelled our holiday or been in touch !

What are they hoping, the Greek Government or the FCO change their advice ? Or they want us to cancel without a refund ? I will wait it out and go next year and use my voucher if I ever get it !!!

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Old 27th May 2020, 11:44
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TUI are probably desperately trying to hold onto cashflow for as long as they possibly can - lack of cash can easily make a firm go bankrupt.

About a week before your holiday is due to depart you will get a cancellation email if it's not possible to go ahead, trying to persuade you to accept a voucher or suggesting an alternative holiday (ie Spain), but permitting a refund if you insist on one. If the Greek Govt are refusing UK flights, I would not have any expectation of Greek holidays happening in June - start making plans for a trip to Devon instead

Until then, you just have to wait
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Old 27th May 2020, 11:46
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
My TUI holiday is still showing as going ahead to Greece in late June ! The Greek government are stating they do not want any UK tourists until further notice, they are not accepting any international flights until 1st July! The FCO are still advising against all non essential travel. So three reasons we cannot go, but TUI still have not cancelled our holiday or been in touch !

What are they hoping, the Greek Government or the FCO change their advice ? Or they want us to cancel without a refund ? I will wait it out and go next year and use my voucher if I ever get it !!!

I am in the same boat suppose to be going to Cuba in June with TUI but Cuba airspace is close till just 1st at the Earliest. Plus they are still selling Florida for June even though British passengers are not aloud in America!

Wish they would just cancel my holiday save me clinging to false hope
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Old 27th May 2020, 12:23
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Originally Posted by habs_fan View Post
I am in the same boat suppose to be going to Cuba in June with TUI but Cuba airspace is close till just 1st at the Earliest. Plus they are still selling Florida for June even though British passengers are not aloud in America!

Wish they would just cancel my holiday save me clinging to false hope
I have given up hoping, like you just wish they would tell me officially I am not going.
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Old 27th May 2020, 12:26
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They are cancelling in manageable batches so many weeks ahead in advance so their staff and phone lines are not overrun (which they are already!) if your holiday is cancelled you will be notified in date order! Just sit tight.. not as if you can do anything else is it!!
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Old 27th May 2020, 12:27
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I understand trying to hang on to Cash, but any company desperate for business in the near future should also try and keep the customers they already have.

How many people have changed their minds from rebook to Refund ?


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Old 27th May 2020, 14:10
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
My TUI holiday is still showing as going ahead to Greece in late June ! The Greek government are stating they do not want any UK tourists until further notice, they are not accepting any international flights until 1st July! The FCO are still advising against all non essential travel. So three reasons we cannot go, but TUI still have not cancelled our holiday or been in touch !

What are they hoping, the Greek Government or the FCO change their advice ? Or they want us to cancel without a refund ? I will wait it out and go next year and use my voucher if I ever get it !!!
Yes I guess they would be, FCO advise may lift at any point before then (Germany for instance announced they are lifting theirs) and the Greeks from what I read are reviewing the list weekly, by mid June we may be down to low enough levels for them to say come in by July and an air bridge set up.

I did read something about July 15th in the telegraph article for higher risk countries to Greece which would be a bit of a pain as I am due to land in Kos late on the 14th!

Things may well look very different in terms of our position come July 1st if the rates keep dropping as they are at the minute.
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Old 27th May 2020, 16:01
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Originally Posted by valefan16 View Post
Yes I guess they would be, FCO advise may lift at any point before then (Germany for instance announced they are lifting theirs) and the Greeks from what I read are reviewing the list weekly, by mid June we may be down to low enough levels for them to say come in by July and an air bridge set up.

I did read something about July 15th in the telegraph article for higher risk countries to Greece which would be a bit of a pain as I am due to land in Kos late on the 14th!

Things may well look very different in terms of our position come July 1st if the rates keep dropping as they are at the minute.
Unfortunately I live in the UK which is deemed as high risk ! But actually I am in Scotland which is probably considered low risk !
I am resigned to the fact that my holiday is not going to happen, due into Rhodes 23rd June. Even if I did get there what will it be like, my friends in Greece are saying it will be a totally unrelaxing experience, no buffet breakfast allowed - we booked B & B basis, social distancing everywhere, masks and god knows what else ! Quarantine at each end ? Would be a complete nightmare... cannot wait for it to be officially cancelled and then maybe attempt a relaxing holiday next year. For us at present too many variables ? FCO Greek Government and TUI themselves ! They all have to say YES !
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Old 27th May 2020, 16:22
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
Unfortunately I live in the UK which is deemed as high risk ! But actually I am in Scotland which is probably considered low risk !
I'd take that rose-tinted pro Scottish chip of your shoulder. Internationally, we are a single nation, oh, and Scotlands infection rate per capita is higher than England.
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Old 27th May 2020, 18:20
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Originally Posted by The96er View Post
I'd take that rose-tinted pro Scottish chip of your shoulder. Internationally, we are a single nation, oh, and Scotlands infection rate per capita is higher than England.
You should be careful what you say on here as you obviously know nothing about me, I may live in Scotland but I was born in England and have a Welsh family background. I am definately not pro-scottish I just chose to live there. If we are a single nation then tell me why are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland easing their lockdowns later than England and have so many devolved powers.
We are no longer a single Nation, look at the United States of America... every state doing things differently they are no longer United ! The United Kingdom is going the same way !Its just a name !
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Old 27th May 2020, 18:23
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
You should be careful what you say on here as you obviously know nothing about me!
Yeah.. be careful. Scary stuff.
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Old 27th May 2020, 18:44
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Originally Posted by helipixman View Post
. If we are a single nation then tell me why are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland easing their lockdowns later than England and have so many devolved powers.
We are no longer a single Nation, look at the United States of America... every state doing things differently they are no longer United ! The United Kingdom is going the same way !Its just a name !
The clue was in the word 'Internationally', i.e Germany, France, Spain... and any other soveriegn nation will NOT make an exception for any devolved nation as they are not recognised individual soveriegn nations, but even if they did, they'll likely take into account that Scotland has a higher infection rate the England at this particular time.
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Old 27th May 2020, 19:03
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Originally Posted by The96er View Post
The clue was in the word 'Internationally', i.e Germany, France, Spain... and any other soveriegn nation will NOT make an exception for any devolved nation as they are not recognised individual soveriegn nations, but even if they did, they'll likely take into account that Scotland has a higher infection rate the England at this particular time.
Thats exactly the problem Internationally we are classed as one nation but in reality we are not ! Lets face it, even in England certain parts are treated very differently.
Anyway my point was I do not wear rose tinted glasses or have a pro-scottish chip on my shoulder I am English and proud of it !
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Old 27th May 2020, 21:02
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I have noticed that my flights to PFO with Tui in September from BHX are now showing as being operated on an A320, I thought the plan for this year was to use all 737-800s and 757s for European flights hence them leasing and painting a number of additional aircraft.
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Old 28th May 2020, 00:03
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I have noticed that my flights to PFO with Tui in September from BHX are now showing as being operated on an A320, I thought the plan for this year was to use all 737-800s and 757s for European flights hence them leasing and painting a number of additional aircraft.
The way I'm looking at it is that the newly-acquired second-hand 738s are essentially "covering" for the MAXs as well as allowing for some additional capacity as the 757s and older existing 738s are withdrawn, although the latter are mostly younger than the "new" acquisitions. The planned additional ACMI capacity this summer (although there is normally always some) seemed to be part of the effort to fill the gap left by the loss of TCX. Of course, it seems impossible to say what could possibly happen this summer (or for the foreseeable future) but I don't envisage much/any ACMI capacity being used (and possibly not much of their own capacity either sadly).
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Old 28th May 2020, 00:04
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A number of 320s/321s were due to be leased in S20 in order to facilitate the summer 21 expansion and to help "bridge the gap" whilst waiting for the MAX re-entry into service, hence the A320 flight.

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