TUI Airways

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M

I wonder how they got on yesterday with flights to the Canary Islands due to the sand storm that closed airports at TFS, TFN and LPA.
At least 30 flights were diverted to other airports, l have no idea if they had any flights into TFS or LPA.

LGW-LPA was cancelled, unsure on current status but don’t think it has departed yet

MAN-LPA was diverted to FAO then returned to MAN, unsure on current status but don’t think it has departed yet

BHX-LPA was cancelled, has now landed at LPA

DSA-LPA turned back to DSA around half way there, has now landed at LPA

CWL-LPA was diverted to TFS and is still there now

[flyerguy]

All airports in Canary’s currently closed

TOM2776 MAN-TFS 14:30STD now showing CTOT of 19:47

TOM4744 LGW-TFS 13:25STD now showing CTOT of 19:53

TOM2754 MAN-ACE 16:20STD now showing CTOT of 20:01

TOM4766 LGW-ACE 15:00STD now showing CTOT of 20:07


looks like EuroControl are expecting a busy evening once these airports reopen

[ROC10]

BOH-ACE and EXT-ACE were both diverted to FUE but ACE now appears to have reopened with ACE-LTN having just departed. G-FDZU has also just left TFS, FR24 showing TFS-LPA but it is heading back to the UK.

[LBAflyer22]

Originally Posted by flyerguy

All airports in Canary’s currently closed

TOM2776 MAN-TFS 14:30STD now showing CTOT of 19:47

TOM4744 LGW-TFS 13:25STD now showing CTOT of 19:53

TOM2754 MAN-ACE 16:20STD now showing CTOT of 20:01

TOM4766 LGW-ACE 15:00STD now showing CTOT of 20:07


looks like EuroControl are expecting a busy evening once these airports reopen

Closed to arriving traffic but appears to be open to departing traffic (to get people off the islands, free up space for aircraft). A quick glance and it seems the ACE-NCL for Jet2, the ACE-BFS for Jet2, TFS-NCL for Jet2 have all departed within the last 15-20 minutes.

Quite a number of Nordic Carriers have all departed from TFS, TUI Germany departed from FUE. easyJet A320 for LGW is airborne now, 8000ft and climbing.

[flyerguy]

Yeah most likely trying to clear everything before everyone tries to get in again.

[LBAflyer22]

Originally Posted by flyerguy

Yeah most likely trying to clear everything before everyone tries to get in again.

You'd like to think so. A quick filter for Jet2 (i know wrong thread) shows that they have 3 bound Canary Flights (two TFS and one ACE) which seemed to have diverted off track and heading for somewhere else. Presumably ATC in Madrid/Lisbon and Canaries have decided to initiate en route diverts.

Speaking of Diverts, last nights TUI MAN-FAO-MAN (Dest: LPA) on the 767-300 went out this morning on the 787-9. Does anyone know if that's returned to UK/ Diverted elsewhere?

[flyerguy]

Originally Posted by LBAflyer22

You'd like to think so. A quick filter for Jet2 (i know wrong thread) shows that they have 3 bound Canary Flights (two TFS and one ACE) which seemed to have diverted off track and heading for somewhere else. Presumably ATC in Madrid/Lisbon and Canaries have decided to initiate en route diverts.

Speaking of Diverts, last nights TUI MAN-FAO-MAN (Dest: LPA) on the 767-300 went out this morning on the 787-9. Does anyone know if that's returned to UK/ Diverted elsewhere?

The 767 came back to Manchester!

[LBAflyer22]

Originally Posted by flyerguy

The 767 came back to Manchester!

Pax had another attempt at LPA today on G-TUIO. Quick look on Flight Radar shows that flight did a u turn over the atlantic and headed back to the UK. Really bad weekend for the tour operators/airlines who rely on these markets for the winter period.

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by flyerguy

The 767 came back to Manchester!

The 789 is now back in MAN, same flight turned back two days in a row. I’ve heard that TUI are now cancelling all affected holidays. The CWL-LPA which was diverted to TFS last night is now heading back TFS-CWL with all those passengers being brought home without a holiday/cruise. The cruise ship has left Gran Canaria now.

[ROC10]

With regards to pax due to come home yesterday, they have been given no info with many apparently stuck in LPA which is on “lock down”, images of kids lying on floors, etc. There have been complaints that there are no TUI reps in sight whereas Jet2 are very much visible and helping their pax out.

[ericlday]

TFS this afternoon

[inOban]

According to the BBC the wind will be even stronger on Monday.

[LiamNCL]

According to Jethros G-TUKG will be or has been painted in TUI colours which suggests there will be no odd temporary hybrids.

[brian_dromey]

Originally Posted by LiamNCL

According to Jethros G-TUKG will be or has been painted in TUI colours which suggests there will be no odd temporary hybrids.

So far there are 3 ex flyDubai, 2 Sunwing (are these the usual temporary summer leases, or permanent additions?) and a Pegasus example. Im surprised that flyDubai are retiring 738s, their MAX's are sunbathing, of course.

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by brian_dromey

So far there are 3 ex flyDubai, 2 Sunwing (are these the usual temporary summer leases, or permanent additions?) and a Pegasus example. Im surprised that flyDubai are retiring 738s, their MAX's are sunbathing, of course.

From a quick check of the frames listed on Jerhros, these are all older 738s without Sky Interiors, some are over 13 years old (older than the 738s TUI have recently withdrawn). The Sunwing frames (if accurate) would appear to be proper acquisitions rather than summer leases (possibly these may be leased back to SWG for winter though).

[Matt2725]

Looks like TUIFly are getting their 788s from the UK.

G-TUIH to become D-ALDA
G-TUIF to become D-ALDB

[brian_dromey]

Originally Posted by ROC10

From a quick check of the frames listed on Jerhros, these are all older 738s without Sky Interiors, some are over 13 years old (older than the 738s TUI have recently withdrawn). The Sunwing frames (if accurate) would appear to be proper acquisitions rather than summer leases (possibly these may be leased back to SWG for winter though).

Is it a case of securing whatever they can, with other airlines also looking for narrow bodies. These aircraft are clearly not Plan A - which was MAX.

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by Matt2725

Looks like TUIFly are getting their 788s from the UK.

G-TUIH to become D-ALDA
G-TUIF to become D-ALDB

Can’t imagine that’ll be great news for TUI UK this summer but I suppose this would’ve been known for a while. Basically means the 2 new 789s will just replace lost capacity (with slightly more seats of course). I was under the impression that they were increasing their long-haul offering for S20 though so perhaps just higher utilisation of aircraft?

[Matt995]

Originally Posted by Matt2725

Looks like TUIFly are getting their 788s from the UK.

G-TUIH to become D-ALDA
G-TUIF to become D-ALDB

These 2 788s are not due to transfer until October 2020.

[Matt2725]

Originally Posted by ROC10

Can’t imagine that’ll be great news for TUI UK this summer but I suppose this would’ve been known for a while. Basically means the 2 new 789s will just replace lost capacity (with slightly more seats of course). I was under the impression that they were increasing their long-haul offering for S20 though so perhaps just higher utilisation of aircraft?

As mentioned these will remain with UK until after the summer season.