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Old 19th Dec 2019, 22:13
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Originally Posted by dmouse88 View Post
Do we know what happened to G-TUIE on flt BY660/661 over period 16th to 19th Dec, was it tech.
It’s led to a horrible delay on this afternoon’s LGW-LPA (scheduled 16:10 on 757). After arriving from GOI, G-TUIE ferried MAN-LGW and has departed on this flight at 22:58. The 787 issue would appear to have somehow led to a 757 shortage at LGW. There have been 738s idle at LGW for hours but I guess the flight must have been towards the upper end of 757 capacity.
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Old 19th Dec 2019, 22:29
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Is there any chance that we could delegate the blow-by-blow accounts of the hourly movements of the TUI fleet to the Spectators' Balcony forum? Any meaningful news about TUI fleet changes or developments is being crowded out in the noise about where G-TUIE has ended up today. "Topics about airports, routes and airline business" is the header, and it's getting rather difficult to identify that in amongst the analysis of Flightradar24 data as to which aircraft has landed where.

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Old 20th Dec 2019, 07:34
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The posts do concern "airline business" so have some relevance in this Forum. Best approach for any frustrated readers would be to skim-read and simply ignore what fails to inspire them.
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 07:47
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Do airlines have special arrangements to get engineers to countries like India which would require Visas - and parts which would bear tariffs. Would engineering support from say Air India available locally be used?
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 10:51
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The posts do concern "airline business" so have some relevance in this Forum. Best approach for any frustrated readers would be to skim-read and simply ignore what fails to inspire them.
Well said.
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 13:15
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Originally Posted by 22/04 View Post
Do airlines have special arrangements to get engineers to countries like India which would require Visas - and parts which would bear tariffs. Would engineering support from say Air India available locally be used?
There would be engineering support from a local firm to cover the basics. For bigger jobs which require larger parts, Iíd imagine a select number of engineers would get Indian visas issued before the start of each Winter season, much like the pilots and the cabin crew.

From what I gather, on this occasion it was an administrative issue with the aircraft chartered to carry the part out there.
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 15:38
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Do airlines have special arrangements to get engineers to countries like India which would require Visas - and parts which would bear tariffs. Would engineering support from say Air India available locally be used?
Air crew get 72 hours on a GD anywhere in the world, which includes flight engineers. I dare say if a problem is longer than 72 hours, you'd get local support.
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Old 20th Dec 2019, 18:39
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Air crew get 72 hours on a GD anywhere in the world, which includes flight engineers. I dare say if a problem is longer than 72 hours, you'd get local support.

even the flight crew and cabin crew need a visa for a 24 hour layover in Goa so I doubt an engineer would be able to Ďwalk iní
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 12:55
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even the flight crew and cabin crew need a visa for a 24 hour layover in Goa so I doubt an engineer would be able to ‘walk in
I did ask because I know from experience India can be tight about these things.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 15:26
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TUI are struggling today on what is arguably the first proper day of the ski season flights. They have had to charter a EuroAtlantic Airways 767 to operate yesterdayís LGW-LPA well over 24hrs late (mustíve been cancelled yesterday) and are suffering hefty delays from various bases. Definitely sent too many aircraft off to Sunwing this winter methinks (10 x 738). I suppose it mustíve been agreed prior to the MAX groundings but theyíll certainly be regretting it now.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 15:44
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TUI aren't "struggling" any more than any other airline. Almost every flight (from any airline) heading South or East today is picking up an ATC slot.

I'm sure the management will take into account the opinion of a FR24 obsessed spotter though.
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Old 21st Dec 2019, 16:03
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
TUI are struggling today on what is arguably the first proper day of the ski season flights. They have had to charter a EuroAtlantic Airways 767 to operate yesterdayís LGW-LPA well over 24hrs late (mustíve been cancelled yesterday) and are suffering hefty delays from various bases. Definitely sent too many aircraft off to Sunwing this winter methinks (10 x 738). I suppose it mustíve been agreed prior to the MAX groundings but theyíll certainly be regretting it now.
TUI flights are package holiday flights, and as such they are not normally ever ''cancelled'' but merely delayed (however badly) and here in the LPA case TUI seems to have subbed in an ACMI airline to play catch up.
Am surprised TUI let the LPA delay slip to 24+ hours but guess ACMI availability for a larger 757 capacity type was limited.
Normally TUI do a better job than most in getting their program back on track.


The Sunwing 738 winter swap round is likely bound by a contractual plan as you mention, and therefore TUI UK would have to let those planes go back over to Canada for Sunwing's busy season.
I would think it would have been untenable to renege on that contract at short notice, especially as Sunwing have their own MAX's grounded.

As for next winter (20/21) which sees huge expansion with new, and reintroduced routes for TUI I guess they are planning hard now with regard to covering the program, (let alone this coming summers!!) plus the nagging doubts of whether they will ever see the MAX RTS, then add in the looming retirement decisions = Do we/Don't we? of the remaining 757/767 fleet.



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Old 21st Dec 2019, 19:03
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Had a notification today that a TUI LGW-GVA will be operated by EnterAir instead - same flt number/terminal/times etc.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 12:55
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Has G-OOBC been WFU? It has flown to China via Dubai. Could be maintenance but seems pretty far.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 12:59
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Has G-OOBC been WFU? It has flown to China via Dubai. Could be maintenance but seems pretty far.
Left the fleet - going for freighter conversion.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 13:59
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Left the fleet - going for freighter conversion.
Thanks, I did think that might be the case as all of the other recently-withdrawn 757s (except BYAW) have gone to SF Airlines in China for cargo purposes.
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 14:09
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Left the fleet
Short term only
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 14:15
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Originally Posted by jethro15 View Post
Short term only
In what sense? Maintenance Iím guessing?
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 14:49
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Itíll be going for the annual charter tour, would be my guess
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Old 22nd Dec 2019, 15:05
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Itíll be going for the annual charter tour, would be my guess
Could be but I donít think so. G-OOBD and G-OOBF have already done that this year and to my knowledge, the tour never originates in China.
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