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I presume that the Olympus A321s at BHX & MAN are crewed both flight deck and cabin crew by Greek staff ? I know there was some worries that if they pick up any tech delays that they will struggle to get the schedule back on track as unable to get crew off standby easily
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I presume that the Olympus A321s at BHX & MAN are crewed both flight deck and cabin crew by Greek staff ? I know there was some worries that if they pick up any tech delays that they will struggle to get the schedule back on track as unable to get crew off standby easily
ACMI leases for TUI from (mostly ACMI specialist airlines) such as Olympus Wamos Hi-fly Titan Evelop ASL Jet-time Privilege Style & Euroatlantic etc etc etc will be ''aircraft crew maintenance and insurance''
ACMI, aka as a Wet lease. A Dry lease means that the aircraft is being provided without any flight crew - such as the Sunwing 737 leases to TUI.
A Damp Lease is defined as a Wet-leased aircraft that includes a cockpit crew but not a cabin crew.
So yes all the FD and CC are from the ACMI airline - occasionally the airline they are leasing to (TUI in this case) may put on board one or two of their own CC members as a pax courtesy, maybe for language issues.
At BMA when we ACMI leased and flew for EL AL with all our own CC.
But at Britannia we leased to and flew for Air France when their pilots were on strike, and an AF CC member or two came on the flights to speak French.
ACMI, aka as a Wet lease. A Dry lease means that the aircraft is being provided without any flight crew - such as the Sunwing 737 leases to TUI.
A Damp Lease is defined as a Wet-leased aircraft that includes a cockpit crew but not a cabin crew.
So yes all the FD and CC are from the ACMI airline - occasionally the airline they are leasing to (TUI in this case) may put on board one or two of their own CC members as a pax courtesy, maybe for language issues.
At BMA when we ACMI leased and flew for EL AL with all our own CC.
But at Britannia we leased to and flew for Air France when their pilots were on strike, and an AF CC member or two came on the flights to speak French.
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Actually not exactly. The Airbus A321 (Ex-Monarchs) flying on Lease from Olympus Airways. They are Olympus Pilots but there is TUI and Sunwing Cabin crew. Told it was mostly TUI cabin crew with one Olympus Cabin Crew for safety apparently.
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It is likely Olympus cabin crew as the TUI crew are not trained on the aircraft nor Olympus operating procedures however TUI will have representatives onboard. Other airlines normally put their crew on to do the on board service so that nothing is different for the passengers.
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Reminds me of the TransAer A320 and CanAfrica DC8 shenanigans.
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What is sad to note that down at Norwegian due both the 787 and 737MAX groundings that FD and CC are being offered varied part-time or no-pay contracts (go on unpaid leave but you get your job back)
These boys and girls have bills to pay
They may get offered VR too.
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Interestingly, whilost Norwegian are operating several aircraft for TUI Airways this summer (to cover the MAX) they themselves are chartering other airlines in to cover their flying, due to a) the MAX being grounded and them leasing out to TUI....must be getting their cover cheaper than the amount they can charge TUI
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Interestingly, whilost Norwegian are operating several aircraft for TUI Airways this summer (to cover the MAX) they themselves are chartering other airlines in to cover their flying, due to a) the MAX being grounded and them leasing out to TUI....must be getting their cover cheaper than the amount they can charge TUI
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I presume that the Olympus A321s at BHX & MAN are crewed both flight deck and cabin crew by Greek staff ? I know there was some worries that if they pick up any tech delays that they will struggle to get the schedule back on track as unable to get crew off standby easily
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Looks like TUI are flying their MAN departures via LPL to fuel up before heading to the destinations. Heavily delayed leaving MAN and then obviously further delays after going via LPL but better than cancelling like the vast majority of MAN departures have been.
TUI flights are package holiday charter flights thus will rarely be cancelled, unlike FR, EZY, BA etc - TUI will get their holidaymakers to/from destination albeit delayed/diverted.
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Haven’t really seen anyone mention this but looks like the LTN base has had major cutbacks this summer. I did wonder as LTN normally has 2 or 3 based aircraft but has only had one based since the beginning of the season. I know that FR24 is not accurate but it shows 3-4 scheduled departures per day, when in reality there are usually only one or two. The TUI website obviously only shows those flights which remain but it really highlights the scale of reductions. However, looking ahead, there is a very brief period from the end of July until the end of August (around 5 weeks) where the timetable shows something more similar to FR24 (thus presumably what was originally planned for the entire season).
Can anyone elaborate on this? Were the cuts made a while ago or was this all rather short notice? I am aware of the disruption the MAX issues have caused, however, there have been no leased aircraft at LTN to help out so is this all down to poor bookings?
Can anyone elaborate on this? Were the cuts made a while ago or was this all rather short notice? I am aware of the disruption the MAX issues have caused, however, there have been no leased aircraft at LTN to help out so is this all down to poor bookings?
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Haven’t really seen anyone mention this but looks like the LTN base has had major cutbacks this summer. I did wonder as LTN normally has 2 or 3 based aircraft but has only had one based since the beginning of the season. I know that FR24 is not accurate but it shows 3-4 scheduled departures per day, when in reality there are usually only one or two. The TUI website obviously only shows those flights which remain but it really highlights the scale of reductions. However, looking ahead, there is a very brief period from the end of July until the end of August (around 5 weeks) where the timetable shows something more similar to FR24 (thus presumably what was originally planned for the entire season).
Can anyone elaborate on this? Were the cuts made a while ago or was this all rather short notice? I am aware of the disruption the MAX issues have caused, however, there have been no leased aircraft at LTN to help out so is this all down to poor bookings?
Can anyone elaborate on this? Were the cuts made a while ago or was this all rather short notice? I am aware of the disruption the MAX issues have caused, however, there have been no leased aircraft at LTN to help out so is this all down to poor bookings?
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Booked onto the BHX - DLM flight on 3rd June. Appears to be an A321 Configuration on the seat map - the return flight on the 10th June appears to be a 757? I assume the 757 will be a TUI aircraft and the A321 will be the Olympus?
